Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.
His career started when someone said to him, “well, have you thought about venture capital? We don’t think that you’d be any good at it.”
The rest is history.
Today’s episode features one of the legends of the venture capital industry.
Peter Barris joined
New Enterprise Associates in 1992 after a storied operating career as President and COO at Legent Corporation and an executive at GE Information Services. He served as Managing General Partner and Chairman of NEA from 1999 to March 2024. Under Peter’s leadership, NEA saw tremendous success, growing into one of the world’s largest venture capital firms and raising the largest-ever venture capital fund a number of times. Today, NEA’s AUM stands over $25B.
Peter was responsible for investing in a number of foundational and industry-transforming technology companies, including Salesforce.com, UUNET, Groupon, WebMD, Workday, CareerBuilder, Tempus, and more.
It was an honor to talk with Peter, who has such rich perspectives as both an operator and investor.
We had a fascinating discussion about the early days of venture capital and how the industry has evolved. We covered:
- The inside story of how almost every other Partner said no but Peter's investment turned out to be a 75x return.
- What's the “best characteristic and the death characteristic” of an entrepreneur?
- In today's hypercompetitive market, do VCs have enough time to make good decisions?
- Why the world of venture capital is about influence.
- What does it mean to earn an entrepreneur’s trust as a VC?
- Why VCs with operating backgrounds can bring unique value to startups.
- How NEA came up with the term "Venture Growth Equity."
- How can a VC tell that a founder is good at experimentation and that they have the good judgment?
- Why specialization and domain expertise are prerequisites in today’s venture industry.
- The importance of relying on instinct to make great investments.
- Why the business plan that is bet on is not always the business plan that ultimately succeeds.
Thanks Peter for coming on the show. It was an honor and a pleasure to hear your views on the evolution of an industry and for you to share your wisdom and experiences.
Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message from Ultimus
01:55 Guest Introduction: Peter Barris
01:59 Peter Barris' Career Beginnings as an Operator
03:43 How Peter decided to join NEA
12:30 First Investment Experience – The world of venture capital is about influence
15:07 How to Influence a Company when You Don’t Control the Company
21:48 Scaling Businesses: When Scale Can be a Moat - The Groupon Example
26:41 The Art of Experimentation
29:16 The Most Important Characteristic of Successful Entrepreneurs and the Death Characteristic
30:40 The Groupon Investment: A Case Study
33:08 The Evolution of Venture Capital Decision Making
33:58 Specialization and Competition in Modern Venture Capital
38:10 How NEA Came Up with the Term: Venture Growth Equity
46:04 The Impact of Scale in Venture Capital
50:49 The Future of Venture Capital and Industry Evolution
59:16 Lessons Learned in Venture Capital
01:02:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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