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Episode 25
Season 1
The Path to Independent Success: Rand Fishkin on How to Build Without VC Funding
In this podcast episode, Alexej and Rand Fishkin discuss the advantages of angel funding over venture capital for startups, emphasizing sustainable business growth over rapid scaling. Rand shares insights from his experience with Moz and SparkToro, highlighting alternative investment structures and the potential impact of AI on search and SaaS industries. They also explore wealth-building approaches for entrepreneurs and the importance of antitrust policies in fostering innovation.
🔍Timestamps:
00:01 Alexej welcomes Rand to the conversation
00:44 Rand introduces himself, discussing Moz and SparkToro
02:19 Discussion on non-VC funding choices
04:40 Reasons for preferring angel investment over VC
08:34 Critique of the venture capital model
13:57 Explanation of SparkToro’s unique funding terms
18:19 Approach to building profitable, sustainable businesses
22:18 Liquidation preferences and SparkToro’s terms
24:31 Structure of SparkToro’s board and decision-making
29:27 Investors overlapping in multiple projects
34:01 Future of search and AI's impact on Google
38:03 Discussion on AI's role in SaaS
42:05 Implications of AGI and SaaS models
45:07 Wealth-building through sustainable entrepreneurship
51:54 Challenges of modern entrepreneurship and monopolies
57:00 How to connect with Rand on LinkedIn and Threads
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Chapters
- Alexej welcomes Rand to the conversation
- Rand introduces himself, discussing Moz and SparkToro
- Discussion on non-VC funding choices
- Reasons for preferring angel investment over VC
- Critique of the venture capital model
- Explanation of SparkToro’s unique funding terms
- Approach to building profitable, sustainable businesses
- Liquidation preferences and SparkToro’s terms
- Structure of SparkToro’s board and decision-making
- Investors overlapping in multiple projects
- Future of search and AI's impact on Google
- Discussion on AI's role in SaaS
- Implications of AGI and SaaS models
- Wealth-building through sustainable entrepreneurship
- Challenges of modern entrepreneurship and monopolies
- How to connect with Rand on LinkedIn and Threads