Bryan Bradford is a certified health coach and nutritionist. He is also an owner of the Sunflower Shoppe. Sunflower Shoppe is a long tested pioneer of healthy grocery and supplement stores located in Tarrant County (Fort Worth) Texas.
A US Army and Gulf War veteran, Bryan found inspiration to serve his fellow citizens by helping his family business become a stronger resource for health.
Bryan joins the GCP to discuss the process of vetting quality products, the importance of certifications and COAs, the dangers of misinformation, bad labels and chemicals.
The Sunflower Shoppe serves Tarrant and surrounding counties by having well trained staff, fully screened high quality products, and frequent open forum lectures to educate all of heir customers.
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former military veteran really knowledgeable and I've given two lectures at his store with great turnout like standing remotely like people really enjoy going to stores and hanging out little lecture I does the first time that I've had a differing age population right and you know we always hand out cards to see how people react to its first time I got like didn't understand a word like oh I need to remember not talking to healthcare professionals all the bad I want to like redo it for her to drag her house and be like when he does redo this or catch maybe a little science as well but was also pretty funny and some of those responses were great lecture and they circled one so they just backwards on the net on the numeric scale which I thought was funny that all the time whatever doing those online, root reviews through Keith world somebody will sit there and say you amazing that it save my life and the one you calm up joke hey kid you change that formula, ruining the curve yeah it's not first place any five stars is that's funny stuff well out Brian in his store there was so much more than store which is why were having him here they their pioneer in the community what does it mean to choose healthy foods to have supplements that mean something to have someone guide you to something that it's going to actually benefit you that's why they have such a good turnout whenever you went there to get those lectures these people the customers and the clients that they have their date they don't shop there just because it's convenient place to go to they go there because he getting information on how to live better yeah I can't wait to bring about article with him also trying to was NSF certified I do and the polyphenols have been shown to augment athletic performance correct by increasing nitric oxide an article just came out that's Asada warned athletes about rise in ligand role use so the Australian sports anti-doping Authority warned athletes less than a year ago the ligand role was appearing regularly in random supplements so people are putting this in ligand role is a storm a storm is a selective androgen receptor modulator it's a class of compounds that have very similar products or similar properties to anabolic agents have less androgenic properties and so athletes were using this started in the bodybuilding world and now it's ending up in all these supplements and people to realize it so you have these pro athletes that are being stripped of their titles and stuff like for instance Joaquin Noah tested positive for was suspended for 20 games the best ballplayer emits mixed martial arts athletes that have been find money and had to sit out for six months or so and they swear that they were taking it on purpose and it just shows I can't wait to talk to him about how he vets the different products ago in his in his store and how many NSF certified products he has and so on so because that is exactly why we go to the trouble doing NSF I think really be going to what's the nutrition oh were going to fencing and that that is at the house but on my dates incredibly that is the last week of October or the last

regardless it's a gigantic nutrition conference for our registered dietitians coming there they're basically the front line of how we are reaching so many people 100% not sure that Brian will talk little bit about that because I pretty sure they have registered dietitians startled yeah I know that he is a clinical health coach and not Kunkel nutritionist himself so so this is why it's so important that when you have a product that you can not only to help with bloating not only do we help with the note G.I. distress different things like that bacterial overgrowth SEBO but you know we can show that it's NSF certified you knew the polyphenols as a benefit for your athletic performance yet that is so important to somebody who's a nutritionist dealing with clients could be athletes college athletes Olympic athletes professional athletes even right now Lucas is up in Kalamazoo and he's playing at high level you start applying IETF's and they have banned substances that are actually listed there so just that it happens even a really early age so NSF certified optional until go to love my Tommy.com/spoony SP 00 NY and you get a really big discount on this in a minute challenge everybody to commit to do this because we want to get a little bit of a pusher and make sure that we start promoting the NSF certification the polyphenols and the overall digestive relief on your safety and your confidence is critically important you start whenever we started the company you made no bones about you want to make certain that you had a product that worked to make sure that she had a product was healthy it featured polyphenols but at the same time he didn't want cost to be an issue you wanted to be in excess or I'm sorry a barrier to accessing you also didn't want anybody to not be confident what they were choosing was it safe that's funny because eventually have to write a book about the whole process because like when I look back there are some really funny moments like for instance when we were trying to figure out how to get the we knew that Cabral chose you to be our main ingredient type so we contacted a company that we now work with regularly in the fantastic company but I got some terrazzo in the because I'm worried about everything so I better make sure that this is exactly exactly what it is so I called around if you want to hear something funny stay tuned so I called around and asking labs and the like now as it turns out there's only really one major deconstruction lab it's in Kansas I got hold of the owner and I was like hey I need you to freeze I was like no problem send me some of the bar can all do it I would send you some of the bark is a gas chromatograph on if we get one major spike reducing that's that but I can only do that to a comparison just you watch way too much CSI several white bags that tell us what that is but he comes back it is just like out goes actually we have to compare to get something no gas chromatograph it's it's a fingerprint of the molecule right and we did that episode on food pairing to remember that all yeah that was a gas chromatograph you look at different foods with similar gas chromatograph's and the aromas augment each other and as a way to do food pairing we do that we shut Patrick early on but this is this is an example so I send it to them and I'm like I got a flat on Argentina get some tree bark just go to chop it off and send it so that we went through a lot of trouble to make sure that it was everything was pure but I was the funniest thing you watch too much CSI well and and then beyond that whenever you and Brandy or step in interest to try it out because every single thing you've ever turned out the all of always put yourself through the test first and we learned that through without even knowing that but we learned that through Dr. Dryden right out of Kentucky he's a fantastic guesser neurologist full bird colonel I believe he's an obscure himself and we got to talking that there is a Helsinki rule that if the researcher is willing to do it to himself and it's not questionable or anything then essentially you're saying no I believe this is safe and here's my data with that so yeah everything that we've done it's always been on me and Brandy first so so did you have a brainy phone call one time we were at the time this two different types Toronto Roger Blanco and abrazo Colorado which one is in 20 oh Colorado so the blanket was much easier want to get that act as a molecule in the cold your Hindi which can be a stimulant and it's been reported to have different effects including improved sexual function and things like that but that's one that nobody can find in fact that was well when I did Melanie Avalon's intermittent fasting podcast is check that out right the first one I did it twice with over the first one I found her in website that she tried to make out trying to at home and it did work and work and we actually had a long discussion as well it's because it's a totally different type of molecules because it says Toronto doesn't mean that it's it's this dongle easy to get Colorado not not and so we got the Blanco we will try to dose it out what what we thought it would be to state that Brady had to go to a meeting and I dumped the rest on the sink night and then one of the employees came back say the sink stopped up like what I realize that did say it'll just congeal in water and I went so I called up I'm suggest our children water coke out of the once you have a bowel obstruction to have explained that but virtually nothing happened but I member when we first launched also so we called up with some abdominal pain and I worried I mean I took a bunch so I just ate a whole bottle just make sure wouldn't cause like an obstruction or anything patient call back on fine and hassle – it's going well I got time 60 capsules sit in my stomach let's see what happens you like a Kobayashi of the eating contest but that being said we did understand this is it that reckless we do understand the science of this the cool thing about these polyphenols is that they are poorly absorbed so they stay primarily in the small intestine and there have been studies that have shown that the blood levels are essentially negligible but then when they try and find it imprudent find less than 1% of the original molecule which means it's doing exactly what we needed to do goes through goes to the colon where your bacteria break it down into all these beneficial molecules like euro with and things like that which help with overall my coffee G cell turnover carrying a very antiaging then your Litton is if you done any research and you really try to figure out molecularly what you should be interested in your lesson should be of a good trigger word I think over time it's can be more ubiquitous or more prevalent as people begin to talk about what you can do to be as someone is actively antiaging I totally agree the only thing we were talking about this people become O'Brien the only thing that I don't like is that when this research happens everybody's trying to find their angle and so when Morgana was in town talking about this she's a PhD that we work with he we got to talk about the different metabolites in how people try to figure out how to make these metabolites and turn them into drugs or turn them into a new supplement and it just doesn't work that way mother nature knows how to do it just can't completely manipulated like that now you mother nature works in its whole form I made it we've seen that time and time again we we reference that with that even even marketed drugs that are trying to compete with over-the-counter supplements specifically melatonin we go back to the days of Rozerem when they tried to isolate and make this basically Roseann was post to be a super melatonin that was going to be 14 times the binding affinity of of endogenous or regular melatonin turns out it didn't do much anything you just separated a lot of bills that your wallet didn't sleep anymore it's me that's a bit that's frustrating to see this when we have a lot most pharmaceutical start from a plant-based something she made a Mormon weldment form and the agent Jacoby reductase inhibitors the cholesterol medications aspirin and most of them start or what GW is trying to do now with spinning down that CBD specifically doesn't work nearly as well they can charge you how much do we hear that someone is being charged I don't know exactly but it is tens of thousands is what I was told because it's such a rare orphan goes in orphan drug status duvet syndrome and Lenox Gestalt which is unfortunately a severe form of epilepsy in children small gripe and happened to notice that I didn't read this before did you know okay so upfront for those you who may not know whenever you have something it is prescriptive that may have addictive traits then the FDA technically awarded what they call a scheduled class and schedule class I they basically say highly addictive but has no medicinal purpose there's a handful of things that fall in their people usually a default say heroin etc. and you got to which is most of your potent opioid stent nail cocaine etc. have some medicinal use but could be highly abused or had abuse potential as always down to schedule control five I saw on the label for GW's new release that they have a C5 on there which it really hates schedule it's not addicted it's the most ridiculous FDA's allowed to call schedule five which is like drinking water right and then they had all that coming due or just talking six months ago were people being arrested and saying you can't do this it's addictive in all kinds are so much misinformation out there about CBD is think about that they're trying to trying to pair this this connotation it that there's a little bit of fear and if you understand scheduled medications are trying to say that there is an element of addiction associated with and I spun down CBD isolate its insane it is so now now they are there quite worried about anybody even coming close to pairing up a disease claim with the with CVD and this is from the same institution which has allowed the food products that you eat to be sprayed with with Roundup doesn't it does not there's just so there's so many things were heading and a lot of wrong directions which is why we like having just like Brian on we can talk about how shop like some Photoshop can really help out guide you in your food choices guide your supplement choices I mean just look at CB dealing one of the reasons why we teamed up KPMG health CBD we got that certificate of analysis we really want to make sure that you get what you're doing so CBD my wife she owns a wellness studio called body body balance wellness and its indicator and she has all kinds of different people to come to ask questions and she gets asked about CBD also just yesterday she came across an article where yet another celebrities endorsing the use of it so this is it coming for mazes and coming from my Dr. Brown but Michael J Fox is apparently become part of one of the CBD companies and specifically because of the effect that CBD is having the positive effect it's having on his Parkinson's which I found interesting but not surprising knowing how we think that the Indo cannabinoid system strikes a balance between our nervous and immune systems it does make sense knowing the Parkinson's has some elements of inflammation and a course you have the uncontrolled twitches and whatnot would ask which of course would be the your neurologic complex of our bodies, running out of control he's found some elements of improvement in his life by making CBD a daily part of it so basically treating CBD for him and in his words is a micronutrient oh really isn't what I was really really yeah me last week show we did brief we covered three articles but one of the articles we did cover was on the micro biome affects people with Lou Gehrig's disease and how the micro biome has anti-inflammatory markers which which does this order talk a little bit later about how complex these and a cannabinoid system really is and how a lot of things can be affected but that makes total sense and I want to see at some point that were having CBD catered to in you right have ready so scared to say diseases but CBD catered to something with a different terpene compound turbines are the essential oils in it or different flava noise component because we considered okay what are you looking for this for what I have I have a neurologic process I got MS I've got Parkinson's like the circuit we need something to cross the blood brain barrier more so let's try this particular one with a higher content that's right think the sciences had yeah and it's it's put the cart for the horse because you can't make your disease claims or if you like that but at least we can sit there and go okay this makes sense why that's actually happening you know if I was in Norway we can pull that off you what I'm say was that debt Texas oh yeah so today I learned on Reddit sounds good yeah that Norway people use the term Texas as slaying for crazy it doesn't hurt a person but a chaotic atmosphere or state of mind so saying a party was totally crazy in Norwegian would be debts of our help Texas which literally means it was Texas and I'm looking at the comments of those people from Norway going up we do say that is awesome I I think it is also the green to that point it would be that would be pretty pretty amazing what you know what Holly what what movie was that I think it was Independence Day when the aliens were coming down and they showed how different people were panicked but they paint over to Los Angeles and they were all going crazy and welcoming the aliens I could wait to be abducted it's almost like if you want to join us have like a weird connotation Los Angeles is kind of said yeah that's that you could say it's it's only Los Angeles or Texas is now apparently just wild crazy and wild about Israel so I'm not sure helping the families we have in no way right now but the now that forgot his name but my dancing partner when we are rude to the bathwater 000 she's Norwegian yes yes it is pretty nasty yeah he took control of the as a live band and had them play what he wanted them to play those Norwegians there so Texan yeah and I he was he was great he's hilarious so we now with Brian coming on here in our next half-hour old and have a good 90 minutes this guy this guy's got incredible experience long before he decided to get into running the DSM flower shop which he has your which we referenced in locations in Fort Worth often can't buoy your location appear in Colleyville and got another one it's a smaller version over on heritage trace the cool thing that I liked about it is as they've grown they just simply found that people looking for a local answer that has real guidance to get people into the store so what what you think it takes for a community that may be somewhat isolated to began to find out that they may have better access to this type of nutrition and where they don't to turn to just the Internet over the Internet away because if you look at like the span of where a lot of the healthy shots are its economy migrates from the west and Canada tapers down almost a a diagonal line into Texas and as you go to the southeast until you hit some some populate your supply. Parts of Florida you really don't see you don't see a lot of sunflower shops and stuff like that why is I've never really thought about him for when I imagine the West yes because that becomes her but Texas is really embracing it right now sure and a lot of people they want to go to their doctor and they want to talk nutrition and the doctor is busy doesn't have time doesn't maybe doesn't know a lot I freely admit that I'm continually learning more and more about nutrition little account locale even just think in your life how you changed your thought about what the importance of food is any outside of of medical school the growing up in Nebraska me going up in Texas at first I read anything much about us came home and ate and I have a lecture change my pocket I go to the convenience store and buy something but it's not like that it all for me anymore and then nowadays when we think of you'll you'll hear okay this year so-and-so is released the most obese states of the most obese cities are the least healthy whatever unfortunately this statement immediately comes to mind is first Mississippi or something like that and then it is quickly followed by Alabama Louisiana is a great topic to go over with Brian is a social economic is an education thing is it possible to eat healthy on a budget is it possible to to do all these things the highly processed foods that mean we talked about this all the time I think Netflix just has a new thing called fat something I'm seeing it and I'm assuming that either I was scrolling around with Carla try forgot something to watch and it does get into the fact that 30 years Gordon 1970 I think there's a 1.5 million Americans with diabetes I would like 30 million only some crazy jump that just happened under our noses and we didn't even notice it so that is really a lot to talk about the Bronx on policy bills I don't see the business side to see him as a healthcare provider how do we merge the two where would you go with it it's really really cool that's an unacceptable level and rate of growth is just not enough time for many people to have her since we said Carlsbad I'm sorry fat bad maple starter really double down on the carbs and you know the ass oil started taking place watch watch less which episode I really appreciate all the emails about Amsoil where you can guided some of those comments are pretty pretty funny white liquid and be back in just a moment with Brian Bradford of sunflower shop and that of course the healthy approach podcast we will see you here in just a expenses blue yellow pills to charge your sex life are you thinking about what we can promise you the same results for three paying $20 a pair for the other path you're getting taken to the cleaners same results for less than three dollars and $16 account for the same results right now for blue or yellow pills 23 and keeping more than hundred dollars our pharmacy prices right now your 40 4 PM and qualify for free setting over pain, right 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of course you are now the host of your I guess somewhat recently launched the healthy approach podcast have a healthy approach but because we distorted that your recently to sober try to get kick started to get into this environment this much you guys are that is awesome I know that when can I were talking last half-hour about whenever he came to do the two lectures up at some flower shop now a course your shop is necessary close to him because he's on the other side of the Metroplex right off shop there for years I was not surprised to turn out the first think and said it was that was amazing the engagement was real direct the room yeah well I think that is what's really cool so you actually have on the second floor a full lecture room old 80% 80 people comfortable 80 people I was just shocked both times I went completely packed and I what I like is the sense of community how a lot of people make this the regular outing they want to learn and you you help them learn and you were asking last half-hour how do we go about getting people to become healthier will it all everything comes on education but it does and that's what we pride yourself and as stump our shop is really trying to give people all the education and let people know who's in their backyard having a lot of people don't notice people like yourself who are open-minded to both medical and alternative nutrition and that's huge because people are seeking this information and people like you got Brown coming in and doing your speaking engagement such a blessing for a lot of people both certainly an honor in your you get out the community and you get to hear little bit what people are saying and after the Q&A is so long because people are questioning oh boy yeah and do that and then you start realizing oh my gosh there's some there's a little mismanagement going on out there know my doctor wanted you X, Y, and Z them like why we try to quit doing that in the 70s that's weird yeah it's about keeping up with the research and I know you're someone is a pioneer in that well the one thing that I'm like very open to I watched a Kimber what podcast it was a Freakonomics Freakonomics podcast had a whole episode on medical reversals and you realize I fully expect that what I'm doing today should be somewhat tweaked and could be a little wrong and may be misinformed just like retirement when white low-fat hi card we became sicker that's right and that was that will spread like crazy you know where people do this I was there is a podcast a listen to this morning holds all bones and it's the doctor that that kinda talks about medical misinformation possibly in her husband it's kind of funny and they were talking about alkaline water about how people want to drink alkaline water and she would just go back over the science of it they do a whole episode on medical reversals also and it's not necessarily that your doctor doesn't know what's going on because most of the time the doctors figured it out for instance when Eric was a drug rep for Xenical when they said that you could block fat and lose weight it didn't take long for the medical community to learn something yes they were introduced to add soil so as it turns out he created a lot of in a leakage of oil could you can digest your fats and yeah the warning was to wear white pants with that right warning on the bus that was at that was the corporate response type hands you're not sick it's completely natural that we can all just realize were losing weight is it's only then he is really only 20 years ago I mean that Danielle Ally still would like still out there as far as I know has everyone Walt Walmart had pallets about stuff like crazy has a fat blocker and that's not that's not the source of your problem it's it's it's it's it's unfortunate I did that start out with potato chips or something this night it did when Xenical was like will board this is not going to around let's just sell the which is still being treated so that both Frito-Lay and all the big giant companies they got it they called olestra olestra and everything in San Antonio was in medical school and a DJ on the edge I was driving and he was like Joe not eat these Doritos is horrified euro detailed graphic incidents about how it just he had no control the student realize was happening and is through upward summary stories about that yet people just started with potato chips on their people come in and say hey these things really upset me big time you know I need something else my bowels back in order again crazy what's crazy how fast they pass the buck to because it did start start off is the generic name orlistat and then they just barely tweak the name and called it olestra and move it into large consumables we just want warm at all now that is going down a surprise attack what you know with some flower shop I find it to be an incredibly awesome store and it was refreshing to me when I first did I discovered I was doing we had Dr. J. Anna was doing anesthesia with him that get here Bedford and then I drove along I saw some flower shop looks like a place I like to go to so did you think it was a floral shop though the very first time I didn't honestly I didn't really know I think this is right when the iPhone pretty much had made its way to me and I was googling a place to find a healthy snack and I was it down in Bedford and it came up with some flour shot you can with some flower shop and when I just sawed off in the distance a light I guess at that I'm headed now it's right but a course I yell or not that far from ignorant traditional big chain grocery storages setback behind you so I walked in and immediately I could say okay this place is different and and there's a reason why it exists and it's a lot because of what you talked about with the change in fat content and how people moved over eating different foods it forced people to have to find a different answer and so your grandmother and your dad started this several years ago in 1970 there was a reason they that long ago get into something like this and that is the aspect that it was considered broody right hours herbs and supplements go but no my grandmother started because her sister was dying of leukemia and just all the horror of course you know what treatments were like back in the 60s for the top of this you know Jesus was looking for better ways and she came across some of the pioneers like Adele Davis and Linus Pauling and so forth and said hey baby or something to this we need investigative mordant so that's really what she sold her moving company with that a moving company at the time sold but gamble everything on a subpar shop now why the name I can't tell you why the name all we know is that you love some flowers so is probably where it started out there but that's really work began in 1970 in Wedgewood Texas you know in Fort Worth area and then it grew to now where were at three locations three generations later my brother and two sisters now run the all three locations man it's in its awesome is something one of the things he jumped at me right away when I very first went in there so it was it was probably not inoculation into a store the sky like that and where you go to a big chain they have to identify if they identify the foods that are there okay and or and or non-GMO and rare we don't have to worry about that because everything and there's been vetted they're not going to put a crappy product in the store so first like the wonders of Abel that's okay this fits what I'm after so what what you think led her to decide you know what I don't like what's offered everywhere else and not only my going to open up my own I'm probably gonna carry a lot of things it really is not comfortable with or doesn't know how a lot about how did she decide and then you fallen your dad fall into the idea I like educating people want to know about the selection comes out that's where it really started was really based all centered around education okay no course we didn't know was much we do down today but it started with the education of just saying hey let's learn more about the body and how you know certain plants and herbs can interact with body the best we do back in the 70s is where she started but she wanted everything is clean as possible she didn't want anything to do with chemicals and in anything that's foreign to the body and spirit that way she was really want to keep things clean as possible now today health is relative to the person she notes that we got something with it for everybody what's good for one doesn't mean it's good for the next person and that's where what we pride herself and in consumer like yourself walks into the store we ask a bunch of questions we want to know little bit who you are where you're coming from what your mission goals are and so were gonna do our best to try to isolate you know even though we may have 20 different vitamin C's on the shelf which one is best for you everybody's a little different for each reason summary very first launched trying to heal and we were talking about where all that we wanted to take it just ideas how do we how do we let people here know I gained a whole new respect or what it takes to get into a repeatable store because we talked about trying to let some flower shop on the first longitude and yellow light well we need to see why you think it works what's the story behind it we had to submit all of our ingredients yell called back ask questions the exchanged information that way it was an easy and it was worth it so basically it filtered it keeps out the noise and it put innocently woke on this we think so but puts in the solid product that's available to your well beyond customers or clients well it's a reputation you know we we want make sure that when you're pick up a product simpler shot but it's a good quality product to the best that we can bet it yeah that's that keyword that because that's what ends up happening with that these big box when we we always reference the Wall Street Journal article that described how when they did DNA analysis then we show that 70 over 70% of the products that I have what was on the label a new study just came out on melatonin were the range from nothing to 500% of what was on the label and so it's still happening all the time all the thing it is it's all the time and here we get hit which all these companies are always want to come into the store and it's like you said it becomes low noise and you gotta be old have some kind of system to filter that down and figure out what what in the product is a good for you no good for you it's got her chip is attested for heavy metals in bold pollutants and all the toxins we get to know those things it's important to try to get the best quality product to the consumer and that's I mean what were talking about that I did want to hit on something so when somebody maybe doesn't have the will to say really air water like a really expensive so were an arrow on in LA ditto like celebrities like to go there and it's note similar to what you have but I think it's probably little pricier jurisdiction only mild horse so how do you that like this put this much work into it and still make it affordable so the people become in our system we got some great people the store really do know exactly what to look for what to ask for the questions that we need to know from manufacturers now on my side of things all even fly out to the manufacturing plants I want to see what whether sources are coming from how the processing is much as we can make sure that the bathtub is clean going to make sure the colloquy was possible Eric always there always places drugs and put one of my patients asleep that he just made that propofol this morning's bathtub the flash works real good you don't know you boys your insurance is bad little humor takes away the head to bad food helps everybody but it is it is it really boils down to the best quality get good there's a lot of junk out there there isn't special I know you're big on the CBD side I mean look how many CBD companies are just popping up left and right we get stores popping up all around us you know how are they now they really betting what their carrion and make sure it's good quality product is an unfortunate since this is just the just another thing that just cannot come in around in it we just have to do a lot of educated speaking of educating Brian whatever we do the show I was trying pull an article and now that you brought up CBD limits I about this article that is really interesting because it it hits home with me so dear have anybody comes and complains of the belly issues got issues that is not complaining about soil probably about 3040 times a day so in the this just got published in the Journal of pharmacologic sciences this looks at the role notes can be a really fancy title all eventually get to the point where it's like this is really what this means but it's exciting for me because it's in my world the role of cannabinoid signaling in the brain over Rex and grown induced visceral anti-nociception in rats fancy title basically what what's going on here is that if anybody's ever had abdominal discomfort you been labeled with irritable bowel syndrome then you know that you have what's called visceral hypersensitivity meaning what they have shown is that when people have got issues like bacterial overgrowth see Bo IBS irritable bowel syndrome that they can inflate a balloon in a normal person and this is been proven in humans and animals that one person at the same when one person like yeah there's a balloon in my rectum I can feel it at the other persons come off the table in pain because the direct correlation of the brought date of the gut brain access actually get that person to feel the pain more we call that visceral hypersensitivity so what they're looking at here is that these guys were looking at two hormones correction which is a fasting hormone and sodas hypo cretin to neuropeptide regulates arousal wakefulness and appetite Eric and I were doing a five day fast one time and basically I made my whole company do it in almost all of us like middle the night on day four day three I don't remember what it was but we were all up just run around wired wired yeah and that the old Rex and is this neuronal peptide which is kicking in man and it's because if you go a certain period of time an evolutionary standpoint it's time to go until something in feed go feed the village that's right and so this all wrecks and does that and what it also does which I was unaware of in this is it actually decreases your abdominal perception of pain very fascinating to me and then growling is the hunger hormone we always badmouth it but it actually also decreases the perception of abdominal pain as well so they were citing prior studies with this where this was new to me but we've got these two direction and grown which do this so now it's well known that CBD cannabidiol has been shown to also help with bowel hypersensitivity and it was I don't my practice as he does benefit all the time I put everybody on trying to in CBD and we just get overall benefit for whatever is going on does your belly feel that yes it does what we've always kind of thought will maybe it was an interaction with the receptor CD1 receptor is in anticholinergic the end of cannabinoid system is so complex would really, learning that attract what this article did is it really it was really cool it theorized that CBD had a direct effect on erection and growl and so they set up an animal an animal model to try and prove what they did is they took various rats and they had these pain perception techniques which were too cruel but not very nice either but everything I remember our animal study it's like doesn't sound Nido sound good to know they used a CD one and CD two agonist meaning they were able to give a molecule to turn on CD wanted CD to which are our Endo cannabinoid receptors then they used synthetic correction and growling to actually kick those out finally they had CB one CB two erection and relevant antagonists or blockers so what they did is they could turn your enter cannabinoid system on that you turn it off they could turn on your grill and anorexia and they can turn it off so first what they did is they blocked the CB one receptors and then they gave the hormones of erection and drilling next they gave a CB agonist with no hormones and then third they just gave the CB blocker less ICBM in the undercabinet system blocker and checked central rocks and Negron levels so what I thought is pretty interesting when the end of cannabinoid system of the CB receptors were stimulated this actually induced improved pain perception from colonic stretch so we have a mechanism of action we can't make disease claims but now we've got a study that proves that when you stimulate BCB receptors then they can tolerate more colonic stretch then the hormone effects were severely blunted when the CB receptors were blocked okay so when they gave Grell and Anil Rex and it didn't work unless you have proper CBD levels so basically we can say that that ECC has health is paramount to all Rex and a growl and performing their job absolutely this is the first time it's ever been associated that this would suggest that that the CB receptor CB wanted to be to they can actually mediate the correction induced effects on paint okay we have a mechanism of action that now says oh it's modulating this hormone that helps out a first time somebody's going to this depth what was interesting is growing was also blocked by CB to but not by CB one so it's just really complex okay they go down some rabbit holes I'm trying to really supply this but it is geeky geeky geeky science so what to suggest is that CBD is involved in the hormone benefits of pain relief in the bowel super interesting because many people believe that CB to is in the periphery but there were showing is it's also the brain affecting drilling that is amazing I know it's amazing because we we don't do complex but you don't want to simplify it too much ego this is all that we know so they're saying no there's a lot of CBT receptors in the brain and its regulating other peptides and hormones so this shows a very intricate interplay of the under cannabinoid system and how it can mediate central hormone effects so in layperson terms if you have hypersensitivity got it if you expect if you want these people that when you bloat it hurts really bad because we don't have pain receptors with stretch receptors so if you have bloating due to bacterial overgrowth or irritable bowel syndrome then you may notice an improvement through couple ways you can check the erection up by fasting so that was something else think about Mike that we should do more long fast right or prolonged style fast if you're low on your own endogenous Endo cannabinoids then taking CBD may increase these hormones get you back to balance and finally if you're not in balance than these other complex processes are knocking work as well so just really complex but I thought this was really interesting that I can say oh I have a reason why you feel better and you don't hurt as much when you're taking a good quality city Sony really I think the take away here is nothing in the body is is in a vacuum they long ago you use all connected everything's connect that's right and it's like whenever you take an ad and anti-inflammatory doesn't just go to where you heard it circulates everywhere you just notice that it's helping you or taking away the pain that Harry with the same thing is for the E CSR Indo cannabinoids system it all needs to be healthy and so balanced yeah it's all this really says is you have to have a healthy ECS if you don't want to have too much pain that's not what you're benefiting from you benefit from extra pain so Brian when I deal with doctors and I'm talking them especially traditionally trained doctors guess what neurologists intro medicine will be like how there's no science on Mike there is so much science I will ship every day there's so much but you gotta like knuckle down and read articles like that okay there's no science that says this cures this disease right but there is science it says on a cellular level this is happening which is probably why it might help or may help or could help or whatever term you want to use because unfortunately I think in traditional medicine which is why they go to sunflower shop to get some advice to get some education most of the doctors or just the busy the referring to either what was the last conference I went to which if you're been on its drug rep sponsored to the hilt and they're just kinda being detailed on what the last person can explain to them or their doing things out of habit so a lot of this there's not a lot of time to get really passionate about this one thing I will learn deep into it and then you start realizing I've got I've said this before but anytime you want any articles I've teamed up with a graduate student and we share this Mengele account we can love it me and I got we got over 10,000 downloaded articles I had to laugh because it's like you know I will never get through that now without talking like 1930 that's right I'm up to date stuff. He published all the time and people say unless it makes it to its sensationalized on good morning America or something most people don't ever hear about a lot of this cool stuff I'll call up some of the scientists and elders before that I read their article on like fascinated everywhere you go with it now oh they lost their NIH funding and they had to close the lab or whatever that but yet the research is just amazing and you know some far sharper lease we personally for sure we try to network with a lot of doctors because we know they don't get time to do those things and that's why were always trying say hey send them over here will educate him or not there to try to sell them something is not were not commissioned were not trying to push supplements on you were to try to educate you when the doctors don't have time to do that is like you said it's your busy the busy so it's important to really get as much education can that's what we pride yourself on our whole steps that way yeah it's the you know it's the frustrating thing to see somebody come in with a whole bag of supplements and it's all from Sam you know I worst enemy Dr. Alden Oprah every time they speak about a supplement we get a flood of people that come in the store and 90% of the time we got a tell of this is it for you this is they think it's a one-size-fits-all just because they said it and so it's a love-hate relationship is for sure but we have to really we turn people away more on supplements that are being touted or marketed from certain celebrities especially sure you know because it's not is not for everybody and that's what we want to make sure that was really one of the problems that we run into when we lots are trying to lose it is so different than the mechanism so unique very similar to the amount of knowledge people have a CBD that when we go to like we go to the IFN conference you know there's a lot of really good functional medicine manufacturers but they're just kind of moving around similar ingredients into whatever fancy name you have if you want a white label that's right so one of the big hurdles is to first educate will know this is the problem you have we can fix it because of this this is doing in a completely unique way and then know the answers I Marta I Marty on a probiotic I just spent 20 minutes explaining about it but I have a searcher to think about the early days of auction deal whenever we number the sum of the first marketing material was explaining what type of bloating because people didn't even understand say people several people didn't understand what we meant by this you true bloating and in and being mediated by methane production or whenever people thought that John Teal would cure all constipation we found that when none and it's actually permitting induced constipation it has actually nothing to do with opioid induced constipation so I think even so Dr. Oz had to go in front of Senate committee yeah yeah, taken to taking the task of blood very well they sure did mean it's sometimes they just talk I don't I really don't know how show operates you know how the elbows products get on the shows but well it's I think all of us in this room realize that like if you're a mean just talk about something so anybody is regular and I'm pretty sure I'm not wake up over the night before I sit with my kids on the bottom are then this morning going over articles which was about on the Reddit looking at the euro Denmark: brings Texas you know Dr. Rogers shows up and he's got people just himself in a dry Teleprompter so there poor guy I mean I know it's not like he has the time either to be reviewing all this literature and stuff that's true but you know it that's what sorta gives our industry a bad rap sometimes because now you got 50 people who were never taken are now taken something that they may really not need and that's technical subissues I get it so well so it's an educational issue I know exactly when Oprah or Dr. Oz says something because that'll be the first to be the 10th question I get that degree and I'm like okay Mike you have to watch the summer have to watch these episodes just so I know what that's what we have to do to get by customers in a day in the Nelson were on the watch Dr. Oz at night to figure out what he was saying and why you saying that word that information is coming from that's exactly right yet I am this celebrity status that will bring something that did to the taillight to the forefront and it happens in all industries all details before Michael Jackson had his issue with propofol I didn't have any patients who ever knew what in the world I was talking about but probably what would you say 25% 50% of the people that we have before I put them to sleep for the four procedure they say oh the Michael Jackson sauce every every day and it's not their fault but that's that's the impression that they got inserted that celebrity influence is real well they and it's not just that I mean there they sell advertising all the stuff so they don't just stop at the show me that he's got his magazine's gesture so this is a big massive machine I was talking to Eric before the sergeants I was in the middle of watching this Netflix special boot the big hacker something like that were chasing well it's it's all about how Cambridge America manipulative Facebook does is why Zuckerberg had to go in front of the Senate committee and all that right you just like oh my gosh we are just little ponds me to manipulate us in that so many different ways so many ways that's so true and that's why it really boils down we start our level is that our main goal is gotta be to educate the client you know as much as possible and you in the end of 5 to 30 minutes that we got spent time with them on the floors try to give as much that's really that's really what I want to get into is how the sunflower shop and stores like it because you we are just here in Tarrant County drink with the sunflower shop but we were talking in the last half-hour why is it that tell you he almost see from the West Coast and almost in a diagonal line down to Texas the proliferation of stores similar to yours and then we move over to the East a few states and just don't see them quite as much and it kinda correlates with where we say some of the worst health is found whenever we do no an analysis of which states unfortunates have the highest rates of obesity etc. there's there's a service that you're providing and a couple other industries are providing that are born out of the lack of good information in there trying to find good places to get good products on talk about whenever we get back your Brian I got to where he got what sunflower shop is doing to fill those holes in the community and foreclose out don't forget like and share a gut check project go to get check project.com you will go and connect us there let us know that you have liked and shared in course you can be entered into the next 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It's it's about suicide yeah oh yeah I didn't know know know know like I could hear sound like and I could that could you not get I wait to hear Seneca to sound even when I'm still there which is which before we get into a lot of questions I have for you about how your journey with this and some Photoshop and how you help your community you know there's there's a lot of stuff there's a really good chance that psilocybin will be either a therapeutic drug or even over-the-counter product and not too long really things early oh there's some really cool research coming out mainly on depression opioids that comes thing for his part for your project we should hook him up with the Dennis even he would mean the applicable science from Hector Institute would be interesting I think in the chemical what was cool about you is that you're also a grocery store teacher so you do a whole show on sulci than the go does this habit you like jet Philip taken the lens billet portobello have a behind-the-scenes GMO products yet what we had we had a mushroom expert on cold Cooper read and he was describing how you can grab the and he was using the different terms of the mushroom and you can tell the silicide and content based on how it turns purple fastening really that is fascinating that I'm so into mushrooms right now not just the trippy mushrooms but how complex have been massive of a kingdom this is it so interesting he forages for mushrooms and he can say which ones are edible which ones are also all the so they don't become an oncologist or at least one professional trading the mycology acumen of exec with a yellow you're barely what he's referring to Dennis McKenna's a few years ago where pale you effectively showed up with microphones and just put them up in the air B&B that we are at just happen to be that the Godfather of psilocybin mushrooms who is a PhD in mycology really the him and his brother wrote a book on how to grow magic mushrooms when they were in college and it's like the Bible still so he hung out with us for like two hours we just did just geek out on mushrooms and fastening the therapeutic side of it that O'Brien was what is what really got my attention and before he came on to tell us even some of the cool stuff was just the data they had some hindrance to the blaze and is in Idaho and they had people smoking cessation for instance one but six months and 91% success rate what was even more astounding was it five years it's well over 60% smoking cessation 60% got really sick 64 – 16 change massive like that is massive like when we talk about the what's the drug that people take to get off that 00 Chantix Chantix that's like 35% at six months really that's what their standard is right now and this is studies are coming well that's the study of the half-truth Institute new studies are coming out of Johns Hopkins looking in the getting very similar results while it's just it just shows that there's a lot of things that we have left uncovered that's for sure and mother nature that probably could help with disease states and their doing the research on the witches are super exciting that it's very exciting survive for you to get where we are at some flower shop today you let us know you were born in Oklahoma they did what town and not a true okay those are unders six months I think you go to because by six so I can still consider myself to be a Texan guy yeah Dr. Tinker Air Force Base my guy was in the Air Force at the time house I was born there in Oklahoma think is $4.36 is what I cost him so to achieve better cost them a lot more later on their dad to remove the text structure that and gosh my background you want to know RB I got the military back in the know 89 to 93 is when I served as holes in the purse go for French Army nice Army yard mighty preservice appreciated the what got me interested I guess really in health of my first duty station was actually military intelligence duty station knew that from 89 to 93 9380 993 so a friend of Rich Hagedorn patriot leaders liquor with eight anyway they started a veterans organizations that are doing pure whiskey vodka held as we have heard okay I were just about hundred first airborne at that exact same time that really is I was and I was in college he was the was doing that one yeah well yeah you do the exact same thing that you did he was paratrooper that's awesome and I was a paratrooper I dumped more radio operator but I got to be stationed in the military told units not love the detective work oh I was there me all the information coming in trying to sorted and disseminate that to the higher command so forth that's what got me interested in going a I wouldn't mind being in the FBI one day guess what I really wanted to educate I think I've always want to be in law enforcement we are not but my second duty station was a medical and so actually when we went to the Gulf War I was in a medical unit we sort of picked up no bodies and things as we went through the way and love the medical side and soft like me don't want to do this so I set soon as I get the military I went through EMT school I went to the police academy and that's I was just driving that way to really be BBB FBI agent one day is my ultimate goal and then that God had other plans for me I guess in the your 9093 my dad was building the store in Colleyville and need some help putting up shelves and so what wells waiting to get on the four Police Department I went over there to help them out and I met my now wife at that point time to and so I had to make a decision on do I want to pursue the law enforcement career or stay with the store in that I actually stayed with the store and the way I look at though is that what drove me in the military of the military intelligence in the medical side it really shake need to become what I now call myself the body detective in the sense of saying instead of trying to catch criminals and investigate the criminal side investigating the body and that's where I turned that attention focused to so I'm in nerdy but hard to as well too I met you I guess you're the bigger nerd I get out I thought I was a pretty big nerd but other data that's what how I got into what I'm doing it now been doing 25 years on a serious note even though I've been raised around all my life my grandmother Kelly is is way more than the business to you because it some of the stuff you chaired Athena passes that you went ahead became a full certified clinical health coach from Nieves Dr. Sears Dr. Sills wellness Institute damning estimate and he does that with his it's him and his son Caray I think his son Primus runs most of it now okay so overseas log things that are out there what's his lesion MD oh yeah Dr. Sears been around for long time to as well to me was when the leaders pioneers lower research it was out there so that's why voice inspected is Institute why chose that when out of the millions of health coaching colleges are all associated passes both UC Irvine and he was out South Carolina yes Southern California and Florida is for the old AutoCAD not sure but he's been around everywhere but I followed a lot of his information through the years what was it like in knowing that you wanted to simply just be a better resource for your customers and basically who became your clients to have someone to talk to what was it like going through that level of protocol and probably going even well beyond what you could even offer to store and then knowing that you take this information back to people what what was it like to to make the transition in a store setting but it was anybody else in the simpler shop doing that at the time know it really wasn't I mean were were always looking for ways to better ourselves a course as you so any training to an information because you know in the health industry there wasn't a lot especially in the early 70s and 80s there was a lot of information going out there you just basically most these colleges who were teaching nutrition were just taken books written by other doctors and we still developed on the pendant around the server so forth it was a lot of factual information even though it been around for thousands of years so it was it was just a way of trying to fit understand how to give the customer the information about how does this work a lot people always asked me say what school did you go to know how do I get into nutrition and so forth and I always say start by learning how the body works first before you learn what vitamin C yeah I think it's so important we don't learn enough about our bodies and our systems may look how much the CBD is plain on all these different systems in our body now if we understood the systems more it makes a lot more sense to why you do this enough that when we understand the body and so I always tell people go do your AMP classes and learned the medical side biology and chemistry learn those things first is once you understand that the environment sees easy trek to the body and what was going on then we'll look at it but so when you watched your dad and your grandmother run the store obviously he said he started in 1970 no scrolling on the shy carpet in the story but she was she was huge and innovative the idea that she wanted to to introduce this to the citizens of Tarrant County and Fort Worth so she makes that leap and then you saw them progressively to the point where you said your dad was opening up now what is gigantic location appearing in Colleyville but then you took it as step further and said okay I I you apparently were able to recognize there was a need you knew the people returning to the people that ran the store for more and further education how did you get the insight you know what I'm going to I'm going to go out seek an external education source and and take this to another level because now my experience a good one and some flower shop is nobody that's not supremely educated especially in section after working in and that sets it apart and if you want to have big grocery store that's it's a stocker and there in a walkie order something is but that's as far as you know Jeff that lie was thumbing I was find it fascinating that the person that gets first crack at most my patients is the whole foods I will personally know Ken this was as really amazed me over the years is that no 1015 years ago we were the last person someone would walk into the store looking for something to help what can be fixed before whether Dr. Starbucks or anybody else we're the last person to see now that whole paradigm is shifted downward the first person to come see before they head out to the doctors and that's that's it's not hard but that's what forces to become more edge cannot was gonna say that that is I mean you have an obligation to make sure that I was right in that store represents you every really well I think that I'd say whole foods because I think it's change the model changeover since I sold Amazon I don't think you have the passionate people don't think you have and you know that's if you can get first crack at him everybody should be called to work at your store which is that job that's right even in our hiring process were not were not focused on necessary just knowledge per se but to me it's about passion to help others to have empathy and compassion to really want to help someone that's what we hire on first is our first priority knowledge we can teach passion can't sure that that's a big thing that's why we we really put herself in her staff being that no compassion to when you walk in you don't feel good you know we work and try to help you do you have what is the most common is complete on the spot what you think is the most common thing that your customer comes in and ask you for asking of your employees undersea digestion digestion is probably still most asked questions whether starts as bloating returns and IBF students was it always that's a great question I would say probably so okay okay in some way or another course food quality which much better way back when you know that it is today sure so I can't say you had probably as much of the upper G.I. she did lower G.I. problems back then now nowadays share without a doubt it's it's from top to bottom digestive issues is probably our number one sought after issues that's really interesting because sewed the non-GMO stat when you think the first time it may be different for you beat being in that industry but was the first time you really took no non-GMO was a move like a late in life like I mean we didn't we talk about this it's not like my parents were talking about I mean my mom with TV dinners occasionally hungry man TV dinner that's right and I how is it so it's I guess that was but something happened because we were talk about this like even in Europe if I go to Europe I don't have the digestive issues of what I'm gluten intolerance will fight gluten him and have some issues I go to Europe and have gluten and it's really kinda fascinating so I don't I'd be very curious to talk to somebody in that industry I don't think our model works the way it does there they have little pharmacies all over the place was no real Walgreens and CVS on every corner because I really need something and I'm not really sure that the market is that is is that big in Europe as it is here like if you had a sunflower shop that would you be seeing the level of people coming through I don't know I mean we even still carry a lot of supplements that are extra still prescription in Germany per se over the week that's releasing the law that come down I actually lived in Germany for couple years in the military and so your write up the homeopathic was a prescription we can bite over the shoulder counter here while so it is amazing that you know their standards are deathly probably a lot better and ours in many ways a minibikes it's interesting note that if you look at developed versus underdeveloped countries so underdeveloped countries may have different types of diseases and things like that that we don't necessarily have to worry about here but one thing that's completely inverted is the rate and climbing growth of autoimmune disease that's for sure and it's specific and almost always ends up starting in the gut right so I was just looking at some stats on something that we were sending out on behalf of John Teal to to handful dietitians that we have contact with and currently the EU and it's all in such prominent every country but it's the EU conglomerate and the United States by far in a way for developed countries lead in rate of growth autoimmune disease 10% by year currently for the EU and 8.5% by year for the United States China is still around 5% and if you compare that with the amount of China's gigantic yes there's lots of areas of China they just don't get high produced foods so they probably not exposed to the refined foods etc. and they're probably getting their growth of the autoimmune explosion in the highly populated areas so their number gets balanced out but the truth is is that the highly processed foods the GMO products are ultimately damaging what it is they were putting into our body exactly exactly I be curious Dr. Brown which would trip you one why do you think autoimmune is increasing here in the US I pulled up something here where were seeing it in the Toradol disease and autoimmune entities it's exploding in India so when I was in medical school and I was a fellow if somebody from India came to you and they had ilio inflammation you had to prove that it wasn't tuberculosis now it's one of the fastest growing autoimmune diseases and so I'll I think it really kinda comes down to that we have well we know that there's many things that can create inflammatory processes and it all begins with intestinal permeability early to get correct there's a lot of information to show that this is what turns on our immune system our immune system is there to fight things and so when it does really get a chance to find anything and everything sterilized but more importantly were spraying and antibiotic on the crops and so you know when you spray glycoside on something and the FDA says well it's safe because we can't find it in your blood what nobody is talking about is that your own bacteria do it's called the circulate reaction and they convert it to something that is not safe so that's well it's one of the problems and then round up the same things considered a class one carcinogen but we don't really care that were spraying all is going to sit everywhere there has to be correlation with that I wholly agree totally. I think that's a big issue including GMO's and everything else I know it's accumulation of many different problems are going on but it's our food supplies doubly toy different than some like you said gluten in Europe is to wait up the good the US right now and we have this thing called epigenetic's where you maybe walking around with the gene and if something takes it on then that's what allows for this to happen maybe the northern European descent of all of us were walking around with a with the higher potential to do and you could flip a switch one day and end up going from your perfectly fine to pursue activities I bumped into a friend of mine which shocked me that I saw him and he is late 50s 60 in his written insulin pump was like oh what's going on is like yeah out of nowhere type I diabetes adult line Delisle onset autoimmune diabetes what yeah so I said and he's like a doctor eats clean and everything is very into health is like what in the world happened totally normal and then just how your body starts producing antibodies to the islet cells in the pancreas and that we always said that a child could never get type II diabetes was adult onset diabetes with a genetic risk factor insulin insensitivity and we always said that if you have type I diabetes you're going to get it as a child that's an autoimmune disease man that anymore at two diabetes happened in third grade and I is the first case of ever heard of that probably happens more often but I never really thought about that was like holy cow that's a fun autoimmune disease basically no autoimmune diseases fun Soto and I think that's last week briefly discuss this that I'm I'm really big into bowel protection big surprise was or why last week we covered a couple different things but one of them that we didn't get into too much detail with with that study will help Pro anthocyanins area which are polyphenols of the complex polyphenols actually were shown to help with intestinal permeability in our learning how it does that now are seeing that grievant tea extract forms a gelatinous film around deleted in so that may be why people don't have as much of a reaction to it so it if you if you're eating a highly processed diet and you continually exposing your body to these things and you continue chipping away at it by having chemicals, sprayed on it how to set yourself welcoming it's it's hard to get away from it but if you have the genes then you're exposed like this then you're kind of set yourself up or something like that but even even then people that are trying to eat clean and do all this can still pop up something there's there's more to it are we to clean that's how Eric was getting at is now to report injuries could point you know they they eat dirt they expose themselves to stuff my biomass while that research is getting booming as well it's Crazy really think about what life is saved and it was okayed by the FDA to use in it just like you said they they presented some markers and say well it's not detectable in the blood or where or whatever tissue right who's to say that they even knew that was the right markers to look for because obviously it wasn't but what's even more scary as the people who authorized him to get to say they clap the sated safe is genuine and generally legislator is not scientifically trained whatsoever may say well they said that the marker that we should be concerned about that what they think is okay isn't there to show that it's being contaminated must be safe that unfortunately is who is driving the decisions on what is and is not safe for us to consume is a public and then it just gets past you guys try and it does and sometimes at some point you know that someone is just not being completely honest on what we actually should be looking for you don't think it's a glyphosate safe it did make my house blow up well it did make house blowout it must be fine but it's not what were looking for so I guess oftentimes I can have you chasing red herring it is a going to be applicable to what could actually damaging to you well yeah and so that's that's one of the important things is that it's not necessarily Army it's capitalism is at its purest amine chair wheat wheat we don't necessarily think or care what is the most healthy and beneficial thing what is the cost of that how are we going to feed the low socioeconomic areas of the country which is kind of that south you talk about where you're like they don't have the sunflower shop so they don't have that is not an infrastructure to support that I just tell my patients looked if you can just not open a bag and eat that would be probably I would go a long way so what you think you have brought me only about two minutes tilted till this next break but what you think would take for some of the states I don't have that, access to have some flower shop in them what what why why do you think it's not prevalent in some of their demand amine education demand that these wearables down to ensure not mean we do not teach anything in school systems about how to be healthy right one. Not even about your body per se be a legacy and AMP Klassen as a sophomore you're a freshman in high school that would be nice I think we should learn to do more of that district this sparked the the attention of kids wanting to understand okay how do we make this body of the system healthier sure I think it starts aground the kid that she going to importune kids or even just like the parents are and so this trend is can we keep going until we break that cycle somehow is most as most of the sugar in the US still produced along the Gulf Coast at his dentist it just occurred to me if you have sugar land upset Houston which was where Imperial started but I mean you get sugar bowl in New Orleans I was thinking that in some instances industry basically takes over the population they also lit a cigarette and a pointer to hear a semi night maybe that's in part you say the education these these types of conversations don't don't arrive there because other dependent depending upon foreign economic livelihood that's right it's the same thing like when you really pinned when Reno living down in Texas or outside of Texas City which is gigantic refinery and only talked about air quality is purely bonding moment I want to talk about certifications and how they choose product of your simpler shops we will be back here and just like a chair to get to project.com if you are trying to quit drinking or doing too many drugs listen to me you don't know me and will never meet I had a problem like you want I drank and used a party a little too much till he got out of control and almost ruined my life I realize I needed help to fix my problem before it totally destroyed me if you tried to fix your drinking and drug problem and you know you can't do it alone you need to call the national treatment advisors they'll immerse you into a 30 day program to replace your old habits with new habits and totally change your life and if you have PPL private health insurance the entire program may 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in terms of health is being driven because people are looking for and that's really what brines said about some bar shop I mean the fact that you said that the paradigm shift is taking place with a start with you now yes then they go to the doctor your fantastic position we are in and that's why were trying to make even more connections with the doctor directly say hey we depending on what the customer's needs are what they are with their path the goal is we know what doctors try to reform out to build Shabbat support system of we can support them nutritionally you do what you are doing the medical side it's a great networking and they like it because they don't have to worry about trying to figure out all this nutrition stuff yeah yeah totally you were talking in between holes that man just go ahead and save that yellow what were you talking about somebody from Ankeny Iowa yes we know's people from Ankeny and one of those that people shared with me that the founder or developer someone had a serious stake in development and use of life estate which turned into round up lives in that area gigantic house etc. etc. etc. and of course that's when they go lots of corn lots of wheat and the first I would say the primary perception of of that achievement was this is great we are building up food sources etc. etc. and I think over time even at same persons I may not of been's the greatest discovery ever and I'm just it's interesting because I think people get insulated by what they know what they're rounded with yeah whether surrounded with it's not everyone's fault but I mean look at that minutes now that Mississippi rivers contaminated with fertilizer and glyphosate and its neighbor paying a price war in the Gulf by the time the water reaches there so it everything comes at a significant cost to the left unchecked will when I was a medical school at University of Nebraska the Nebraska if you look at a map it's called the lymphoma belt where it goes all the way through Nebraska and Iowa and you know we we worked with a nurse from Iowa when she moved down here standard of developing leukemia and that was unfortunate while she got through it so Jesus was the highest cases of lymphoma been shown it's they called the lymphoma belt okay the lymphoma leukemia belt so much so that it was the first autologous blood transplant was done at University of Nebraska and it's at one of the better medical schools to go if you're going to be studying blood-borne disorders and transplant so including liver transplants both but autologous blood transplant where they spent down the irradiate you they take away all of this and they give it back to you that's kind of all started at University Alaska you know out of necessity breeds invention sure that's the lymphoma but right there but that makes sense because it's an agricultural dozer to agricultural states that serve a great purpose make no mistake about were feeding a lot of people were feeding you know animals and everything but your exact right we didn't anticipate that this I pulled up I was talking about that Mengele night when I hadn't took the liberty of just typing glycosides of these are one of 10,000 articles that we have downloaded and it's also you can just see the all these articles are there that's a lot and things like that stuff nobody talk about this comes down to this glyphosate-based herbicide exposure affects gut microbiota causing anxiety and depression in mice while belittling up right there so oh okay report the glyphosate induced cell death through a pop product and auto fabric mechanism so that is affecting our spouse on the silo level it's time to reassess current safety standards for glyphosate why are we still see Impala to round up local hardware store I doubt now is crazy but having a well I get neighbors that don't they don't know what we know trim nearly after just spraying and I got another neighbor is like I can't like they don't only what what I do so in my neighborhood build all these different companies true green in these different to guarantee that your that your grass is green and the to get rid of the weeds and but don't let pets or anybody walk on it afterward on okay will why that doesn't sound like it's safe here with you bring a true green and think that would be a sponsor so not to worry but they might want to bet that we could be like one of those returning to like some crazy political show we are in the hell she is there to smoke at our next Bowser McDonnell will set out out as much about Barbara is like an episode of theocracy watch Pres. Camacho true green did come and service our yard one one summer because he tells them to get the organic package and a person felt really confident in it but I don't I don't now with their organic package I don't know that's because they explain it in the US then maybe it was so you learn they said that if you paid X amount that it was going to consist of this and then we also asked is the question the candidate said no can then can the pets run around on they said sure but even looking back on it as some things have been revealed about that process and what is and isn't the organic lawn treatment and I just don't think that it was as advertised I could be wrong but was even more concerning is they said they were able to trace the contaminants that would happen in an organic package they're using the same equipment to distribute the that's right and howling so that cross-contamination though I feel like I'm compared some my friends are probably hypersensitive trying to find the right answer even economic stakes insist going to build it and add since they just decided that I don't know why we care so much about a fruitless crop anyway we waste on her water on throwing grass it doesn't I don't know if this is true now but I just got on pesticide watch.org so it is that it is the Internet without any real background check with Dr. Google gather nuts they're not too keen on the chemicals that they use will to set that way and well live and learn I don't stick with a better course yet you know say it's it's one of the things I think they could've done a great job back it was all over I kind of felt like I might've been picked on some that really wasn't delivering what they said the return sure so that happens that happens I bet when people come to pitch things at some flat all the time all what you think are the best protocols and what was some of the pitfalls it shall found out weren't working for you on vetting companies that you do business with will mean one of the biggest I guess learning experiences during our years was you know manufacturers are would come into the store trying to pick give users sales pitch our product euros sounds wonderful it's peeling all this is doing the things doing that sounds great but they never could put a certificate of analysis or let things in the label at the time to start wonder you know when you start consumers were actually taken and did get those results what they were claiming that we start asking questions as was long time ago course and we started on what we need to know what's in it because like you said there still all kinds of companies were being tested in their ingredients and they don't have what they say in their they get 5000% of too much of something that could be is like that all everywhere and that's that's a big challenge we told the story about how I sent the original base product Cabral Cho to a deconstruction lab I did leave this part out where he said well it's really interesting because you just send me chemical what we usually get his competitors sending in something and they want me to run for something I said look what you mean is like well like if I get a male enhancement pill and will look at it because I will almost always find you note drugs in it and they just manage substances quote root yellow Viagra sildenafil or whatever your those those drugs civil almost always see that and the girls will see in weight loss product will will find so I don't necessarily do deconstructed him to look for something that is typical found in these and that's what they get to the point so that original article that I brought up today about the bump disarms that that's what they look for the like oh there's a bunch of of different products doing so they start randomly checking it in up bunches of products that were supposedly for health performance had the Psalms in there so it's to the point with bit to go through trends work because of your competition is doing it and then note starts getting the whole really got a business over to bend the rules a little is it really been in the rules are you coming it just gets weird – – and it's it's a wide variety of ingredients are out there I mean a lot people asked why can I just buy this from the grocery store or Costco or Sam's they got some good things there don't get me wrong but there's a lot about things to you just cannot understand what to look for those things and so that's why again some partial prides itself on make sure we got the certificate analysis to get into self quality on labels all that's so important now to protect the consumer how many did you have a lot of product is the NSF label mean a lot to you it does it us but one of her favorite companies Bluebonnet regular sugar land Texas and be there they got some the best no qualifications on their label I've ever seen any company to really a lot of NSF certifications so on the especially for sports yeah that's exactly what we use with you are trying to sell things kicked off to us because we had interest from a dietitian it was caring for players at the Oakland Raiders many resent said that he said I want to start getting out on tip to the coaches into the wives of the players that's that's right what about the players he said I can't do it to get into the survivor's rights and it's awesome what the heck is that and then it wasn't long after that we began really petitioning some Photoshop to carry out John Teal and I never forget that that you and Kim if you said if you have that that's that's a separate building yeah that's a separator it's also interesting is its definite separator to you to separate us but the general public is willing to stand with that little symbol is so if you have an athlete if you're if you know of anybody who's doing athletics you got you tell them to look let NSF certification and it's just it's very bold sits right out say you know we we pay a lot of money to have third parties look at this and make sure that were not doing anything to the survivor support markets actually mean that the it's okay that's not well-known because it's actually only like five or six years old that's right this specific part of golf and so do you see that dad especially so in Colleyville you'll have lots of young parents with kids who are going up very competitive in sports in this area do you notice that they do start to learn to gravitate towards these cutter learnings but is still early on for the public to do understand NSF and what's going on GMO verifications and although the certifications are on the bottles and why they pale a bit more for it because of those reasons sure that's important that you're getting a good clean product the manufactures clean and not sweep things in the bathtub like we talked about earlier so it's it it's forest is very important try to translate that to the consumer is the next big step now it's about the education they look for the certifications on your label because it does mean something it is so interesting that somebody it's funny how we will cut corners at certain times so if you got your super elite baseball player in his high-level high school player and is going to be possibly get a scholarship going to college and then you spent all this money getting up to that point and then going well I can get that from Cosco that is an NSF certified that time to get that creatine from this place over here to get whatever it's like you worked all the way up to this don't start skipping now it just happen to a tennis player I'm tied up alternates on remember what her name was she just got been for two years because they found a substance in a multivitamin she was taken in remission the brand but it's you pray pulled up that is that would they'll be talk about my house yes it's a prominent brand out there and they were they have the sports multi-she was taking had a banned substance was found in a camper within greediness can you find out when you see it but is deftly it was a problem she's got suspended. Holy cow's it looks like it's a but we sold the popped up first she's suing a vitamin firm that is right she gets over this she's an Argentine wow what a main what a crippling thing that she didn't ask for you now and that's that's what happens unfortunately when you take things you can't believe in it certification or just lack certification altogether what yet what walk-ins looking that part of the me ask you you mentioned certificate of analysis and you know that I know you did some of our shop is been on the leading edge of making CBD available to the community high-quality CBD that now we've we've gone through the hard steps of finding a manufacturer we can trust that would produce legitimate COAs what we discovered about four months ago is a high a high likelihood of people imitating COAs what it what has sunflower shop had to do to guard themselves against faux COAs info certification we just do our due diligence chair I really tried on the cover because there's not a whole lot you can really do besides you go test yourselves into the lab and test yourself if you need to try to verify their COAs himself sure that's been done sometimes dry it just we want to make sure we have any doubts but most number always gonna stick with those high quality manufacturers that we have no doubts about that in the CBD world that these longer companies popping up so like up as we haven't heard up and up which is George L should be your CBS morning which looks awesome you mentioned you got to manufactured location yes have you ever offered to go to someone's location there like it's called just now. Yet Italia through a catfish type thing have you ever encounter with her like well give us give us couple weeks and will have it all put together an exhibit in Canada question: all you the minibus we do what the report on top of it because there were no labor standards when they come in or to anyway they're going to build have to present the campers and right there there there is a very good likelihood will never see him again so me that you could have your information pretty fast our buyers again do you know we have a once a month meeting with new Benders or try to get into the store so they go through all that and just today it's crazy you know they're very busy at what they do in the research side of it what about their long-distance customers and consumers of yellow yellow maintained or developed clientele that grip here are lived here in Tarrant County lived away and if kept in touch with you just continue buying from all the time by me not coursing on the certified nutritionist to not have a counseling practice but overall young fellow clients move away so we keep in connect all of the country now we do a lot of mail outs and shipping and so forth are websites getting better were trying to improve it did make it look more friendly friendly now I'm on it now you know why you don't look at artists as the leader of all wet because if you want to see what it what two-minute providers can do when they build their own website obviously just got our day after we start hiring people to help us out you put all these pieces together the the common theme is not bad for a gastroenterologist building a website but it's really bad but that button it's cute but yeah we were still try to connect with customers all across the country now is what we really want to be no outside her bubble was what were trying to do in her next phase and in doing more like this podcast videos you know virtual counseling sessions the whole worksites awesome so that diagnosing podcast topics that you all will do address digestive issues that you address thyroid issues us on theirs's various topics on CBD can't die all the effects and then when you handed Dr. Browning to talk to and into the community outreach lecturing series the thing I really like about is whenever y'all reach out to the people that are on your email list you began promoting right away we got this coming up go ahead and reserve your spot now that kind of interaction it it seemed to make as you can see other spots fill out the whenever you first kind exposed the thought process of how simple our shop worked and you're going to make these things available where you are you nervous were you like man I hope people take it worse she always want to be like to hear his own way I mean we all be right but no is forcefully services that you can hire will outsource all those likes and so is missing that's what my dog's eye contact after zero there there was 700,000 people that attended that lecture he must've been a nightmare horrible yeah it's always a mute spot because we we we try to get back to our local community all the time you would work with large charities and so forth but trying to get let customers know what doctors what healthcare providers are in their own backyard it's it's always been our biggest challenge but it's been our biggest benefit because we network that brings up two things I just just occurred to me so we weave we seen the list that they have at some flower shopping on all different topics I can is hit on it but I want to me I know you have a great relationship with a lot of physicians in the immediate area but have you ever had one where you have a lecture series just for the areas physicians or healthcare providers is to come into to learn little bit just specifically that your store know we really haven't displayed more the judge of the Chamber of Commerce type level out okay done those okay with that I sent you guys were that usually is host at we have done the stores not a bad idea what about the other when they can't depart my mind is what about we were just talking about appearance of athletes I wonder if it would be a good community outreach program to have something where you basically talk about certifications that are applicable to people who have athletes in the family know that that's really all that sure would be me I would know a thing about it if it weren't if it weren't for just being exposed at this level so I had a 50 years ago I had a young man get admitted to the hospital and he was totally jaundiced and look like he was going in the liver failure and what in the world is going on and then start looking at what he did to his dual sport supplements and one of them had hormone and it which is exactly that tennis star got pop for really yeah and so I mean it's it's good not only not only may you be wasting your money if you don't get what's there but there was a recent study that what like 40% of a lot of the load of these different weight loss sports performance and sexual enhancement 40% of those had dangerous drugs in them I totally believe that I really do miss Jesus what category yet so you just know about you but you think as a dad you're helping your 19-year-old yelled go by the O*net income just tell the kids every week we get so many kids come into the store from the high school since were thrown by high school to meet her saying he can get the script and submit it to an educational battle for us in many ways we try to get into the school systems talked me the PTA clubs and eBay who will listen about hey this is way would be to be really educating these kids they don't need to be taken all these red bowls and high caffeine things that dealt dose of creatine not getting the water in their system to dehydrate themselves so into it and it's an educational battle but it's getting there how receptive are they when yellow go-ahead leads the school system itself not too big if we get two more the private organizations that were right I speak more at that were reaching more more glad I think that the school wouldn't be Matt and I'm not even surprised at the answer I was curious why I me I was somebody just to treat high school by teacher in the classroom of nutrition we would talk about health insurance and things which is great were see a little bit of that here they are but you're right as an overall umbrella of nutrition for school the government plate still there that means it as far as the food pyramid that they follow oh well don't believe in that as far as the umbrella in healthcare when I go when I'm working in the hospital and I'm on the cardiac rehab floor and I'm looking at what being served for the cardiac diet is that not amazing holy child crazy it is absolutely insane I went in on I to go early on the weekend couple weeks ago and I'm food-service person is bringing the empty trays out and with regularly collectible I like there's bags of Lays potato chips breakfast don't care who ate that I don't care if we just should not for that that's crazy that I truly agree and I don't want to in any way bashed dietitians on the certify nutrition is not a dietitian there is a difference or Texas but you know dietitians what their logos be placed together based on the food pyramid schemes and that's were going wrong that's not the dietitian's fault per se they have to follow those parameters what is a different string to I'm still confused by that because even as guest neurologist I don't see a big test the bottom line of it is that dietitians are taught that all nutrients can still come from food okay that's the only place we probably need to get them from certified nutritionist know we don't look at approved by the site and of course the food pyramid on top of that we we believe we do need a supplement to what the body is not already getting so that that's probably the baseplate lamest terms should put out there us so there's some great dietitians are open mind about site which is wonderful that don't miss refolded food pyramid scheme but it's just everybody's different in their basic molecular nutrient here and there were just always try to figure out what that is to help the body because supplements vitamins herbs minerals this matter do not heal anything is just the tools for the body to do it on so were trying to but that's why always tell my clients they were not here to treat disease by any means were looking at what systems are breaking down in the body that can cause the disease to happen the first place that that's a big point the big point which must have a funny little story a customer come in a couple months ago from a doctor center in the store and she says I need some sweet potato cream Sweet potato Creek out as to exactly what I said I said sweet potato curry Breck my brain going to Dr. all just talk about something else I don't know if we prayed out of the sweep and to do that so I was like my brain took about 30 seconds before I believed site ask the question what you said for and she goes will struggle my skin from hormones I sounds like all were in Texas sweet potatoes and while dams are the same thing looking for wild yam cream to help and natural progesterone production is what she was looking for a little creepy is what she called so of you know you're in Texas who sweet potatoes while the object through the same thing in Texas and let them know that it is wild wild yam seven estrogenic effect I do that's work that's where most your over-the-counter progesterone actually comes from is the welding fascinating I have little that it is cool and you're right growing up I thought that Ganz inserted was anything so thought they were different for long time I was given I was growing up I didn't know they were the same thing Texas enough but in other states that would hold true now there's actually different species of it yeah that actually inserts laser is a difference between a sweet potato and EM for save in Texas same thing man that whole hormone thing get similar patients are commonly consists it such big business the antiaging hall like they are with you and I'm not really decentered the largest in the US it's crazy because when I've talked to like real hormone doctors they just cringe when you bring that name because it's it's fact are you going to get a shot come back to each get a shot help and that's your body does operate like that you will not at all not at all I don't know what you do about that it's so that's permitted in CVD sales is what they're concerned about that's right I mean I know it just does not add up it all the Dowson round up on top of that gasket a perfect storm I don't know that you see it if it's it's unnatural it probably is this is it can't be good for you it just does not make sense you're right have some round up yourself about T shot and in deep some potato chips with olestra and well said last 4 ounce data I read both of this show now that's that's that said that's interesting will was much I tell people my definition of good health is just doing more good than bad that is that simple to me would know was to be perfect I'm not a tree huggers organic extremist and by any means sure it's about trying teach people just to do more good things in their life is not about having to change her life upside down necessarily but just keep taken steps to get there and that's what health is about it's a journey there always could be chasing it one way or another just thinking just have the thought go through your head real tried to add a vegetable to this exactly so could be that simple simple ending of this is big meant that people think it really costs a lot more to be healthy that's not true the truth is it cost a lot more to be sick it sure does the long side they actually mean if you just going to invest a tiny little bit more for a high quality product your body your life your sleep your everything for the most part is just simply going to be better so I guess you can decide if you want to spread that cost out over time by selecting better foods and shopping at something like sunflower shop or if you want to save a lot of money and then be hit with a big bill in your insurance doesn't cover your hospital stay later clearly at the image of the good Bill Davis's many years ago one of the pioneers of nutrition are camber exactly the exact words but she says every day you wake up with no decision do you want to improve health or do you want to become more sick and every decision about life is about that is that it is just going to better my health nurse is coming more sick what I'm putting on what I'm beating what I'm doing to my active in my city every decisions that way yes and ask you we got about a minute and 1/2 left that with all of the different clientele you come through what is it like when somebody who you saw probably at their hardest and Dave can run for the game it and cannot share the stories before and then suddenly they have an epiphany and Maeve rounded the corner and they attributed to what you've introduced him to do it somehow or not it's an amazing feeling him is is why I do what I do today still is that reward system of seeing a life change for the better you know would like you said there that weathers a switch that flips on weather was a nutrient weather is something heard it doesn't matter where it comes from it is just that if it improves your health but that's a blessing in its own way it really is out I love seeing people like change with the best we could see every day that's the beauty of this job you know we could see it every day of people coming in and say hey you give me this couple weeks ago it's amazing what is done I thought oh it's it's but again it still boils down to education you know just compassion for each other again well I sincerely appreciate places like the sunflower shop I certainly appreciate you dropping by to see us today of course golf golf represent ultra until well for little over two and half years and in one of the early people he deftly and deftly appreciated real quick for people to connect with you it's some flower shop.com that's with MPs and even go so far show.com two peas in any write out a thoughtless way to get a hold of us and then of course she had the podcast which is the healthy approach on podcasts which is almost the platforms of iTunes and so forth so yeah what were doing that to I need to get Joel my show someday will do it when your guy got check project number 19's in the book stuck around 19 great show we learn a lot thank you for doing what you do my math thank you this is the only 24 hour take anywhere platforms dedicated to food and fun clear spoony are you hungry for the usual today or you ready to spice things up with the new Nashville hot brisket from firehouse subs with kicking up are slow smoked brisket Nashville high season is top with melted pepper Jack tangy 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