According to our guest today, divorce is a monster under kids beds. In her ongoing film project, Ellen Bruno is putting kids’ voices first, hearing how a group of young people view divorce over the long arch of their young lives. The 2013 film Split: The Early Years introduces us to 12 kids adapting to divorce in their families. This year, we catch up with those same kids after a decade’s passed in Split Up: The Teen Years as they reflect on how their lives have been marked by divorce.

We have a wonderful conversation with Ellen about what she’s learned from these kids over the last decade, and interesting perspectives gained from them. We talk about the value of learning to be vulnerable and keep your communication open with your ex in order to better provide a positive environment for your kids. We chat about what children of divorce have to learn in order to take care of themselves. We also wonder what it would take to have more judges and jurisdictions make these films required viewing. 

Plus we have a listener question asking about the meme-ification within the divorce industry and how that may affect those going through it.