In this episode of Live Unashamed, hosts bring on their friend, Sam, to discuss the differences between sobriety and recovery. They explore the challenges and misconceptions surrounding these concepts, emphasizing that sobriety is about abstaining from undesirable behaviors, while recovery involves deeper healing. Personal stories highlight struggles with perfectionism, codependency, and self-sabotage. The conversation probes the reasons behind continued relapses despite significant recovery progress. The discussion aims to encourage listeners to reflect on their own journey and engage with the community for further support.