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It's rare to speak with a podcast guest who has had multiple near-death encounters.

We'll come back to that, but for now, just keep in mind that Zeb Evans is not your typical SaaS CEO.

I first met Zeb back in early 2018.

We'd been trying out ClickUp since late 2017 and we couldn't believe their consistent product development velocity.

Between that velocity and their vision for the platform, Andrew (my business partner) and I made the decision to double down on ClickUp; first for ourselves, then as the core platform we helped agencies implement as we streamlined their operations.

That early bet on ClickUp has paid off in spades, as they've rapidly emerged as a major force in the project management space.

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