It’s not always easy to have conversations about what needs to be changed, and the roles we consciously or unconsciously play in those changes.

But it is important to be aware of the role you can actively play, or choose to opt out of, when it comes to shifting our reality to foster equity.

Andrew Horning joins India and Erica to discuss why white men need to be agents of change, how he advocates for everyone to be contributors to change, and how to build emotional resilience when discomfort shows up.

In this discussion:

• What it takes to be a change agent
• Why white men resist change
• How white people can use their voices to shape change
• How to build resilience and stamina

Learn more about Andrew Horning:

• AndrewHorning.co
• Grappling: White Men’s Journey from Fragile to Agile
• Elephant Talk Podcast
• The Hoffman Podcast
• The Hoffman Institute

Keep the dialogue going:

It is essential to reconnect with the fact that you as an individual are a part of the collective whole of humankind. In

Pause on the Play® the Community, we’re building emotional resilience and reconnecting with what is essential.