I'm not sure that AI has changed what we do more than electricity did, and somehow they [lawyers] were able to absorb that. So actually, you know, where's the gap, we always assume they can't absorb technology, but maybe they can. 

if you look at the time spent on talking about the subject versus the number of real-world effects, it's not what you'd expect.

quite a lot of lawyers see that job as being artisanal. You know, they are they all skilled craftsman doing something that's too complicated for anyone else to comprehend

• The wide spectrum of innovation found within law firms and legal practices
• The ask to make complicated disciples more simple so it can be spread to different types of lawyers
• How to practically approach innovation conversation with lawyers
• How to practically approach innovation conversation with clients and in-house teams
• How to identify the intervention points that can have a significant impact on the delivery of quality work

I find the in house legal teams are normally really conscientious. They're just desperate to do the best job that they possibly can for the business and feel a bit kind of sad because a lot of the time they can't turn things around as quickly as they want to.

Or they have to say no to people. And, then you try and work out, well, what are the intervention points that are most likely going to help them achieve that.