In this episode of The Business of Cloud Native, Chris Holmes talks about bootstrapping Decipher Technology Studies and their core product, intelligent service mesh Greymatter.io. He also talks about why it's so important for brownfield and greenfield apps to talk to one another and the many similarities between public sector and private sector organizations. 

Highlights: 

How Greymatter combines business intelligence and security controls.

The difference between working with public sector customers and private sector / enterprise customers — and why there are more similarities than differences. 

How segmentation is sometimes necessary for any highly security-conscious organization, including both government organizations and financial services companies in the private sector. 

Why we need to respect legacy applications — because they tend to be the mission-critical applications that drive revenue. 

Why connecting brownfield and greenfield applications is critical, because not all ‘legacy’ apps will ever be moved to the cloud.

What ‘returns’ a company is looking for when evaluating ROI on cloud migrations. 

What we mean when we talk about an “ROI” on security tools. 

Why Kubernetes’ terrible networking is part of why Chris could see that service meshes would be necessary even back in 2015. 

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