Ever wonder what happens when you mix a sci-fi novice with a medium-level nerd and throw in some Star Wars? Well, buckle up, because that's exactly what this episode of "Make Me A Nerd" delivers.

Mandy Kaplan, whose imagination may have gone the way of the Death Star years ago, sits down with podcaster Ocean Murff to chat about "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story." Ocean, proud owner of a mere 2,000 comic books (down from 4,000 - he's practically Marie Kondo-ing), attempts to guide Mandy through the galaxy far, far away.

Mandy, it turns out, is more comfortable with spontaneous musical numbers than space politics. Who knew? She bravely admits to feeling lost among the planets and governors, but finds her footing when she realizes it's basically "Ocean's Eleven" in space.

By the end, Mandy hasn't quite reached Jedi status, but she's at least made it to "Star Wars curious." Ocean's mission to create a "small sliver" of enjoyment seems successful. Maybe next time they'll tackle a sci-fi musical - now that's a force Mandy could get behind.

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