They stuffed a lot of movie into two and a half hours with Spider-Man: No Way Home. Villains and Spider-Men from multiple movies across the franchise hit the screen and while most of the rumors predicted such, there’s little room to deny that what the team pulled off here is truly epic.

So, it’s the movie we got. But is it the movie we wanted? Is it the story we needed? To hash it all out this week, Ocean Murff is joined by Marvel Movie Minute hosts of present and past: Matthew Fox, Kyle Olson, and Rob Kubasko. All, unabashed comic book fans, pull apart the action, the logic, and even the ethics of this web-slinging wonder.

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