In part two of our series on governance, we turn to Rick Legon. In his role as president of the Association of Governing Boards, Legon has worked with institutions around the world, helping to strengthen board relationships and further the dialog for change.

The challenge lies in creating a shared dialog, according to Legon. “Cultural norms exist to keep stakeholders in their place. We can’t continue that way, but the behavior is entrenched."

This week on the show, Howard Teibel and Rick Legon discuss the challenges in fostering strong board leadership to help institutions face their collective crises ahead.