In this episode, Coach Jo and Coach Kim ask the million dollar question: why do we eat like college students or unsupervised thirteen-year-olds? They tackle the issue of real food versus processed food and the easy fast food companies have created for our busy lives that do not help our bodies. Why do we reach for chips instead of chicken? And how do we start eating like grown ups? Coach Jo and Coach Kim get real about what’s in snack food, the allure of sugar, and why protein needs our full attention.

Their conversation highlights the realities of our busy lives, where we just can’t find time and energy to make real food, how convenience food is chemically designed to draw us in but never satisfy, and the hard truth about cooking like a grown up. Coach Jo and Coach Kim talk about feeling a dopamine rush versus satiety, sugar cravings versus real energy, and how to think about food purchasing and planning strategically. And they talk about taste! It has to taste good. How do we accomplish that? Discipline, willpower, and listening to Coach Jo and Coach Kim walk us through eating like grown ups. 

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Coach Jo: [00:00:08] Welcome to Perfectly Unfinished Conversations, the Iron Lab podcast with Coach Jo.

 

Coach Kim: [00:00:13] And Coach Kim.

 

Coach Jo: [00:00:15] Where you ride shotgun with us as we have raw, real, unfiltered and unfinished conversations about trying to eat, sleep, train, and live with some integrity in a messy, imperfect life.

 

Coach Kim: [00:00:27] We are all about creating a strong support system, taking radical personal responsibility, having fun, and being authentic. And one of the most common themes you're going to find in this podcast is the idea that we create positive momentum in our life by doing what we call B-minus work.

 

Coach Jo: [00:00:45] We are making gains and getting ahead and loving life without self-sabotaging our goals by striving for perfection. We get it done by moving ahead.

 

Coach Kim: [00:00:55] Before we're ready...

 

Coach Jo: [00:00:56] ... When we aren't feeling like it...

 

Coach Kim: [00:00:58] ... And without hesitation.

 

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Coach Jo: [00:01:10] All right, we're back for another perfectly unfinished conversation. And today we're tackling something that we think way too many people can relate to. Like, why do we still eat like unsupervised 13 year olds? Or better yet, how the hell do we start eating like actual grown ups when the world just keeps shoving Pop-Tarts and granola bars and artificially dyed beverages in our faces? Speaking of artificially dyed beverages, did you know that they have a Skittles drink now that I saw?

 

Coach Kim: [00:01:39] I saw it in the grocery store.

 

Coach Jo: [00:01:39] I was like, are you kidding me? My kid was like, I want that. I'm like, no, I said that makes you sick, I told him.

 

Coach Kim: [00:01:46] Oh, really? Yeah. I don't blame you.

 

Coach Jo: [00:01:49] But anyways, let's chat about all this today. And don't forget, stick around until the end of this episode, because we've got a little update on what's next for the perfectly unfinished. So don't miss it.

 

Coach Kim: [00:01:59] So spoiler alert. A lot of this conversation we need to hear. So honestly, that includes me. Like if I didn't make a conscious effort, my default would still to this day be some variation of gluten free toast, peanut butter, and way too much coffee. And listen, at almost 55, I should fucking know better.

 

Coach Jo: [00:02:22] Right? Like, I have two kids, I run a business, I know how to structure my life, and yet the sheer willpower it takes to not just like eat a handful of goldfish crackers any time of day throughout my house, like, even just as a lunch. But like, if that's just my lunch while running around my house, like, it's just ridiculous. So, like, what is wrong with us, Kim?

 

Coach Kim: [00:02:42] Well, I think we were set up to fail, right? I've told Jo this before. When I had my first two kids, 1992 and 1994, I refer to the 90s and early 2000 as my Oprah years, pre lost in the void of my cell phone era, when I was working outside the home Monday to Friday, and I had four kids between the ages of 4 and 14 and I was where you're at, I was fucking tapped out. And I would come home at night and cook dinner and listen to Oprah in the living room on TV. And the television taught me that McCain's deep dish pizza was part of a well-balanced diet, and that I could absolutely, with certainty, trust everything that had the green check mark on the box. And so between the 80s and 90s, that low fat, low calorie diet culture era and the rise and accessibility of processed food, because you and I have talked about this too before, where when I was a kid, 1974, 76, 78, going through the grocery store, you did not have an aisle, an entire aisle of cereal. You did not. You had a section that might have had Frosted Flakes and Froot Loops, Rice Krispies. Corn Flakes. Muesli. Puffed rice. Puffed wheat. That was it. Like you did not have the accessibility of processed food with all of the marketing that we do now. And on top of it, in the 90s, we were raising latchkey kids, right? Who in that time, it was still okay for kids to get themselves home from school and keep themselves busy until the parents got home. You know, but they developed the shittiest eating habits. And we're just now unpacking and unlearning decades of bad programing every time we pick up a vegetable.

 

Coach Jo: [00:04:35] Exactly like we grew up thinking microwave dinners. Like Kraft Dinner.

 

Coach Kim: [00:04:41] Lean Cuisine.

 

Coach Jo: [00:04:42] Yeah. Hungry Man. I remember there's a couple Hungry Mans in the deep freeze in the garage, you guys will be okay, right? We'll see you tomorrow. And they just, like, leave. And I'd be like, it'd be the best thing ever. And then, funny story enough, me and my cousin, one time we decided to go buy one to have like some childhood memory of it for like later in the day we we ate it and we were like, it was the most disgusting thing. Like the dessert, the apple turnover, the dessert, whatever it was tasted like a pine tree, like smelly thing you'd light in your house. It was horrible. Yeah, it was horrible. But like, and now we're just, like, supposed to suddenly, you know, be all out here after eating like that, meal prepping organic quinoa salmon bowls and trying to fit in, like 30g of protein before 10 a.m.. Like, it's a lot for a lot of people.

 

Coach Kim: [00:05:30] Yeah.

 

Coach Jo: [00:05:31] So, you know, like, let's just start with this, Kim, why is it so easy to eat like shit? You know, like, why does convenience food always win?

 

Coach Kim: [00:05:40] Well, because it's designed to. Convenience food is designed to win. Like, have you ever noticed how eating garbage takes zero effort, but eating something nutritious feels like work, you know? Tell me why a salad requires 12 fucking steps, and washing lettuce feels like an extreme sport, right?

 

Coach Jo: [00:06:01] Like if I want to eat a bag of potato chips, all I have to do is open a bag of potato chips and simply just exist on the couch. But if I want to eat something healthy, I have to first find the healthy recipe, whether it's online or in a book. And sometimes that's like 30 minutes. Then chop things in the order, marinate things, assemble things, and then clean up the fucking mess. Because I didn't know what I was doing when I was making the recipe. And like for a lot of people, like, who has time for all of that?

 

Coach Kim: [00:06:26] Yeah. And like you were saying, you know, if you don't have a plan, you know damn well you're just going to stand in front of the fridge staring at it like it's a magical porthole to dinner.

 

Coach Jo: [00:06:37] Open sesame. Nope. Just still leftovers and regret of all the vegetables you bought when you were in the real meal prepping mood at the grocery store.

 

Coach Kim: [00:06:46] Like, here's the thing, though. Food companies know we're lazy, and that's why everything in the grocery store is engineered to be grab and go. You've heard me rant on this before, and I see it like every time I'm in the grocery store, I am appalled. Notice the first thing that is marketed to you the second the doors slide open. What are the stands that they have there? They've got chips, 100 different kinds of chips and popcorn and drinks and candy bags of chocolate and Easter eggs. And like at this time of year. Right? Candy. Sugar. Chocolate. The entire aisle. An entire aisle at the grocery store dedicated to candy, sugar and chocolate. Marketing as food. It's pure trash food. Like that section is larger than the vegetable section. And the truth of it is that when this subject comes up, people call me or you, you know, a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist to think that there are just these evil scientists in labs building addictive food and scheming to make us fatter and sicker. And while that may never have been the intention, it may not be an active plot to kill us, it definitely has been a corporate plan to sell cheap food and drinks and fill company and shareholder pockets.

 

Coach Jo: [00:08:03] Boom. There was this like, I'm just going to go off the note here, there was this giant candy raffle prize yesterday at my youngest's home hockey tournament in the shape of a Stanley Cup. Like a candy Stanley Cup. It was huge and all the kids put their raffle tickets in that one thing, like alone. And my oldest was like, mom, I really hope I win this one. And I was like, I really hope you do not because you're going to get like maybe two things and I'm going to donate it. And he kind of looked at me and some moms overheard and they chuckled, but like, I was dead fucking serious. Like one mom goes by and she's like, gosh, I hope my kid doesn't win that. I'm like, I know that's a tower of cancer is what I told her.

 

Coach Kim: [00:08:40] Yeah, and you know what? People don't like that. People don't like the fact that we are that blunt about food, but it is this serious you guys, like it's not... It would be one thing if it was just the tower of fucking Stanley Cup candy once in your lifetime. But it's everywhere we go. It's in your kids classrooms. It's in the Sunday school church snack. It's at daycare. Like what we used to find as Halloween once a year, where you'd fill a pillowcase and it would stay for six weeks or two months and you could ration it out, our children have access to this all the time. Teachers are using it as rewards for accomplishing tasks. And no offense to my teachers because God love you what a hard job and it must be so tough to find appropriate motivation. And that would be so special if it was just teachers providing a little treat every once in a while. But we don't just get the treat at school, we get the treat everywhere we go.

 

Coach Jo: [00:09:40] Yeah, we're going to Dollarama. We get the treat. We're in the aisle with grandma. We get the treat. We're in the aisle with mom. We get the treat or dad...

 

Coach Kim: [00:09:45] Treats in the pantry.

 

Coach Jo: [00:09:46] There's treats, like there's treats everywhere that's being provided as food. And like, have you ever tried to find a quick protein option at a gas station? Like it's nearly impossible. It's all chips, candy, protein bars that are just Snickers with a new name. We are being marketed by making candy even into toys like Kinder Surprises and cars that are filled with candy pieces in them. That it's just plasticky junk that they're just going to throw away after. And like as a parent, I tell my kids they are not allowed to go inside the gas station or when we're in there, like they can't pick any of that stuff. But it's so hard when they see all these beautiful colors and everything's on the lower shelves that are kids size level.

 

Coach Kim: [00:10:27] 100%. And at the grocery store, Gushers and Dunkaroos and granola bars with sprinkles, like...

 

Coach Jo: [00:10:34] So last Friday, when you and I left and I had Duke or Saturday or whatever, we bumped into each other at the grocery store, and you left the vegetable aisle earlier than me because you were by yourself and I had a kid. Duke put away the cart by the way. He was done with it. But I, like, went by between the vegetables and the meat, there's this popcorn stand with all the colors of popcorn, with filled with dyes and flavors and whatnot. And Duke stopped and he, because the point was, it was going to be our treat Friday and he was going to get to pick a donut. He got to pick one donut because that was a treat Friday, right? But nonetheless, like being a mom with a kid and they see all these colors and it's sitting right there and like and he grabbed it and he's like, I want this instead. And he started to get active and I had to like, calm him down. And I came down and I said, but you know what, honey, if you get this, you don't get to pick that one donut. And we're not getting both. And like after a couple more back and forths and he just put it away and he like gave up because I was standing my ground that we were not. You had to choose. And I think like I was a) I'm not floating my own boat but I was proud because trust me, there's been a lot of situations where I have lost the end of these temper tantrums. But then it made me think, how many parents don't want to deal with that? So they just throw it in? And then now they throw it in.

 

Coach Kim: [00:11:48] And this is, again, like we've said this before in this podcast, we are you. And I did my share of that.

 

Coach Jo: [00:11:55] Of just throwing it in.

 

Coach Kim: [00:11:56] Of throwing in the towel because you just are so fucking exhausted by life that you cannot bear the thought of having this argument with your kid. Fine, I give up. And that happens with us too. Which brings us to like, why do we reach for garbage even as adults, when life feels stressful, like it's so easy to give in, especially when we're grocery shopping. Especially when we're rushed and pushed for time. Especially when we're overwhelmed. Like we know we should eat better. And I'm always saying to clients, you fucking know how to make a healthy meal. Don't ask me for a meal plan, because if I asked you to build me a healthy meal, you know exactly what that looks like. But at 4 p.m., which I call it the fuck it realm, suddenly we're knee deep in a family sized bag of Doritos. Like it's just easy in a life that feels hard and long eating processed pre-made Franken-food feels easier.

 

Coach Jo: [00:12:57] Yeah, because like essentially food is the cheapest. It's the easiest form of therapy. Like, you have a bad day. Boom. Ice cream. Someone pisses you off. Boom. We're getting pizza. You're really tired. Boom! I'm just going to get coffee at a crazy time and boom, a muffin the size of your fucking head.

 

Coach Kim: [00:13:15] But here's the truth people insist that they are not emotionally driven eaters, and they totally are. Overwhelm is an emotion. Exhaustion is a feeling. Procrastination is driving your pantry snack hunt. Like people go, yeah, but I didn't break up with my boyfriend, I'm not bawling in my pint of Ben and Jerry's, I'm reaching for the ice cream because I'm rewarding myself for surviving my life. But that's emotional eating.

 

Coach Jo: [00:13:44] Yeah, like a DQ blizzard, it just hits differently when we're emotionally spiraling and feel like that it's the one thing that's going to bring me all the joy in the world in a day that feels like a fucking dumpster fire.

 

Coach Kim: [00:13:56] I think it's easy food. Easy food just relieves the stress of being a grown up, right? It reminds you of simpler times back when life didn't suck, bills didn't exist, and your biggest problem was whether you got a Lunchable at school or not.

 

Coach Jo: [00:14:10] And Lunchables were like the real rich kid flex when I was a kid. Like when I grew up, if you had a pizza Lunchable, you were basically a celebrity.

 

Coach Kim: [00:14:18] A celebrity. But real talk, food should make you feel good long-term, not just for five minutes. Again, I often tell my blueprint clients like, we've got 5 minute food, 15 minute food, and 5 hour food, and the 5 minute food is the one that I fucking want right now, and I'm going to inhale it. But in 15 minutes, I'm gonna probably regret it. I'm going to feel bad about that decision. I knew I should have done better, I didn't do better. I let myself down. 5 hour food is the food that feels good 5 hours from now where I still have integrity with myself. I feel nourished, I feel balanced, I'm not hangry like all those things. Food is pleasure. But first food is how you get the body you want. And so food is how you build muscle and bone and brain matter. It's how you stave off sickness and it's your comfort food. If your comfort food leaves you feeling sluggish and bloated and guilty, that's not comfort, that's fucking sabotage.

 

Coach Jo: [00:15:21] Totally. Like, let's talk about eating like a grown up in a way that doesn't suck, because there's a lot of ways it can feel like it sucks. So how is it not going to suck, right? Because if you tell me my only options are going to be like steamed or boiled chicken and sadness like I'm gonna riot.

 

Coach Kim: [00:15:39] Boiled chicken.

 

Coach Jo: [00:15:40] Like that just is the most disgusting visual.

 

Coach Kim: [00:15:43] But same, the worst thing we've done for ourselves is build our entire diet around processed foods. Because your palate is so accustomed to everything being delicious and yummy, that real food doesn't taste as good, it doesn't light up the dopamine receptors, and real food is isn't as rewarding, straight up. But here's the deal. Then it is up to you to plan and build food that tastes good and meets the protein, fiber, and healthy fat nutrition profile, like it's got to give your body the building blocks it needs to be strong and healthy and to make you feel full and satisfied much longer than easy fast food, right?

 

Coach Jo: [00:16:28] Like ever eat a big bowl of cereal and you just simply feel hungrier 20 minutes later? That's because you just basically ate pure sugar, right? And like, speaking of sugar, we've talked about this in the past and over the last decade, but we don't know if we've talked about this here. But a study on rats back in the day showed that when given a choice between sugar and cocaine, they almost always chose sugar, even if they had previously been exposed to cocaine in the exact same study. Like that is crazy, you guys. This is because sugar triggers a powerful dopamine response inside your brain, similar to addictive drugs, but in a way that may be even more rewarding. I've done many sugar detoxes over the past years and I've always achieved the exact same results. Major relapse behavior until about day four, like migraines, shaky, anxiety, the urge to find and look for sugar and then have to stare at it and then pull myself away like the crazy shit.

 

Coach Kim: [00:17:23] Yeah, totally.

 

Coach Jo: [00:17:24] And then by day ten, like I always know by day ten, I'm good. Real food tastes so much better when you stop polluting it with processed crap. And on the flip side, every time I allowed something sweet back in like a cookie after I've done my detoxes like, I couldn't believe how actually sweet it tasted. It's like we're like, numbing our taste buds with how much of sugar we're essentially consuming. Right? Or the processed stuff. And here's another hack, really like eating food that actually fills you up. So we're talking about if you're starving an hour after you eat, just like Kim said, or your kids, here's another sign guys, if your kids keep asking for more food periodically throughout the day like I need a snack, I need a snack, like they didn't just eat a meal, they're just having a snack in disguise all day long. Meaning like if you're giving them you think it is a meal, but it is really just sugar and carbohydrates, and there's nothing satiety wise to hold them off. Like they're going to burn through that and keep asking for food more and more throughout the day. When we start feeding our kids more protein, my kids don't come back and ask for anything for like three hours. That's when I know for sure.

 

Coach Kim: [00:18:31] And, you know, back to you talking about sugar and about detoxing and how you noticed how much sweeter everything tasted. I have just finished 25 days of super strict eating with this functional practitioner, this functional practitioner I hired to help me get my stomach and my gut sorted out because of this autoimmune gastritis and the subsequent bowel trouble I'm having. And so I've been on this super, super strict whole food fruits, vegetables, moderate protein, higher fat, tons of water, but weeding out all processed stuff. And what I noticed putting it back in is how fake everything tastes, how weirdly chemical everything tastes. And I'm talking like that's just an observation the way you think sweet taste extra sweet is we don't realize how our brain likes it, but our body actually knows the difference.

 

Coach Jo: [00:19:26] Mhm. That's so right. So let's say we go full conspiracy theory here like the food industry is actually scamming us. Yeah it is. These companies do not want us eating real food.

 

Coach Kim: [00:19:39] Well again it's not in their best interest that we suddenly stop buying their products and eat at home and for real. When was the last time you emptied a bag of wavy Lay's potato chips and dumped the crumbs into your gaping maw? Right? Probably fairly recently, to empty out a bag of potato chips, pretty easy to do, pretty frequent for most people. That's just a really common food that we see that people have trouble with, right? But have you ever noticed that it is practically physically impossible to binge eat a rotisserie chicken. Like this example alone completely highlights the entire problem you're faced with in two sentences. Chips and dip taste better and is in your mouth faster than chicken, right? And no wonder it's so hard to stop eating this crap. It's not about your willpower, people. It's chemistry. You're being set up to fail.

 

Coach Jo: [00:20:38] And that's because junk food isn't just made to taste good, it's scientifically engineered to keep us eating it. Food companies, they actually hire teams of researchers to perfect the exact combination of salt, sugar and fat that lights up your brain's reward system like a slot machine, making it nearly impossible to stop. This process is known as sensory specific satiety, which ensures that each bite is just satisfying enough to keep us reaching for more without ever feeling truly full. From your crunch of a chip to the melt in your mouth feel of that nice milk chocolate. Every detail is designed, it really is, to be irresistible because the longer we snack and the more things we really like to snack on, the more we're gonna buy those things we like to snack on.

 

Coach Kim: [00:21:29] Absolutely. I can remember in learning about, you know, food and satiety and signaling and that kind of thing. The example that I remember reading, which I was like, that is it, is that whole example of if you sat down with just a chicken in front of you, your brain and your stomach communicate in a way that satiety and protein and that communication, hormonal communication, that is why you cannot overeat protein. There is a signal that happens, a feedback that happens between the brain and the stomach that stops that. Like you get to a point where you're like, nah, no more chicken.

 

Coach Jo: [00:22:02] Like a robot, just like looking and like scanning. Oh, that's gonna be pretty full, you know? Like it does it.

 

Coach Kim: [00:22:08] Yeah, but fat is very satiating, but it doesn't take up a lot of space. So even though, you know, it makes you feel fuller, it also doesn't take long for it to speed through your system, right? As far as, like, space in your stomach, holding that space in your stomach, the problem with carbohydrates or everything else in between, crackers and fruit and chocolate and chips and, you know, licorice and all these things. That's why on a smorgasbord full of food like that table, you can go, I think I might be getting full, but oh, cheese. Oh, I think I might be getting full, but chips. Oh, that's so good, I'm just going to dip that chocolate in that and like you can override that feedback loop. And I don't think people realize that if you chose very specifically, strategically certain kinds of food, your brain and stomach just will not let you overeat.

 

Coach Jo: [00:23:01] Yeah. Like totally. Like she just went off and she's so right.

 

Coach Kim: [00:23:06] Sorry. Yeah.

 

Coach Jo: [00:23:06] No, I was just watching you. I'm like, God damn, Kim, you just nailed it.

 

Coach Kim: [00:23:11] So here's the truth. And trust me again, this is experience talking, like eating like a grown up is straight up self tough love and discipline. and discipline isn't willpower either, right? Like, it's the epitome of showing up and doing the damn thing when I don't want to do the damn thing.

 

Coach Jo: [00:23:31] So how do we eat like adults, but we still get to enjoy our food?

 

Coach Kim: [00:23:34] So it's not easy, right? But at some point you're going to have to recognize that the choices that you're making are also not easy. They're setting you up to struggle. And the older we get, the harder our body has to work to retain its amazingness. Processed food is a slow death. Like, I'm not being dramatic here. These are stats you can find anywhere on insulin resistance, muscle loss, visceral fat and cancer, and high blood pressure and heart disease, like processed food is directly correlated with these conditions, right? Causation may be debatable, but it cannot be good for us. Like this isn't an abstract out there thing. However, there are ways to enjoy your food. And so like Jo kind of mentioned easier, a) you got to start by going on the hunt for foods that you love, recipes that you can do at home for foods that you love. So, for example, I love a bowl of war wonton soup or pho. And my kids told me it was pronounced pho. Is that what, but I always say pho. Yeah? So I always say, I always say pho. So I get the ingredients to make that at home and in nowadays, because we are such a diverse nation, you can buy pretty much every ingredient for the food you love in almost any grocery store. And so once a week, build a meal you love at home, go to Pinterest, find a highly rated recipe. Google your favorite thing. Pick the one that's got 4000 5-star reviews and try it.

 

Coach Kim: [00:25:07] Get the ingredients, make it. And like people listening to us are going to be like, who doesn't eat at home? But lots of people don't. We eat in arenas and drive thrus all over this country, or hello, Skip the Dishes. Like, but you got to begin to upgrade your diet and and that includes your childhood favorites. And you can get your kids involved. Like if you love pizza, make it at home with real ingredients, make it on pita bread and let the kids decorate their own pizza and bake them in the oven. You know, I see people spend days and days and weeks perfecting sourdough starter kits and proofing homemade loaves of beautiful bread and sharing it on social media. That shit takes perseverance and time and perfection. Why won't we do that with food? You know, like we just think, oh, I hate cooking. It's because it requires some attention and planning and discipline, right? If you love Eggo toaster waffles, like, make a bunch of protein pancakes on a Sunday morning and freeze them two at a time in Ziploc bags that you can throw into the toaster and have with jam. There you go. Toaster. Eggo protein waffles, right? Like. And you got to stock your kitchen like a damn grown up. If your pantry looks like a gas station, you're probably going to eat like it's a gas station, right? I know lots of people who say I buy the fresh stuff, and it just goes bad before I eat it, and so that is a real problem.

 

Coach Kim: [00:26:28] That's your ambition talking. But get strategic, buy frozen items, steam it for five minutes, or put sweet potato or russet potatoes into French fry shapes in the airfryer with sea salt like bagged fries are full of crap and they take the same amount of time to cook pretty much as air fryer fries that are 2 or 3 ingredients like potato salt and a bit of olive oil to keep them from sticking. Like, there are so many ways to begin to slowly take control of your food. The biggest one, I think, is what I like to talk about is the 80 / 20 rule. Like, I'm a huge believer in this for the majority of people, if I just ate whole food 80% of the time, then when I do want a pop tart, it's no big deal. But we've got it reversed, and we think we're not doing too bad because we had broccoli last Tuesday. But that was eight days ago, and everything since then has been out of a box or a bag, and it is creating the problem you're faced with. So if 80% of the time you ate animal based protein sources from the sea or from the land, colorful fruits and fiber and vegetables and sprinkled in some whole grains and cheese now and then, and enjoyed a margarita and carnitas on Saturday night, your situation would radically shift.

 

Coach Jo: [00:27:56] Eating like a grown up isn't just knowing what to eat. It's about making the choice to prioritize yourself. And yeah, like Kim said, that's going to take time. Time to plan, time to prep. Time to actually sit down and eat real food instead of grabbing whatever's easiest for you. But here's the truth if you don't make time for your own nutrition like you're making time for exhaustion, cravings, and then feeling like absolute garbage, choosing yourself means you've got to decide that your energy, your strength, and your well-being are worth the effort because no one else is going to come and do it for you and whatever else anybody else wants to do on their own journey, or what you're looking at Instagram and everyone's life is so perfect, let them. What can you do for your own journey?

 

Coach Kim: [00:28:41] So good.

 

Coach Jo: [00:28:41] So before we wrap up, we have also a quick announcement because Perfectly Unfinished Conversations will be taking a hiatus for the next 3 to 4 months. So don't worry, we're not disappearing forever, you guys. Just pressing pause for a bit. We appreciate every single one of you who's been tuning in and listening, and we can't wait to come back with more real, unfiltered conversations soon. We have one more episode and then we're going to take our hiatus, so we'll see you when we get back.

 

Coach Kim: [00:29:07] Yeah. Look at it as the end of season one.

 

Coach Jo: [00:29:10] And if you if you like this episode and our whole season, make sure you guys share it with a friend who still eats like a college freshman. Yeah. And let's keep these perfectly unfinished conversations going.

 

Coach Kim: [00:29:19] We will see you for one more episode next time. Two more weeks.

 

Coach Jo: [00:29:23] Hey, see you later.

 

Coach Kim: [00:29:24] Bye bye.

 

Coach Jo: [00:29:27] You probably got a sense of who we are by now, and what our personal approach is to developing a lifestyle that creates really great health and strength. Using a relational, common sense coaching approach that is backed by knowledge and personal experience.

 

Coach Kim: [00:29:42] There are a couple of ways that you can work with Joe or I, one on one, when you can't actually train here at Iron Lab.

 

Coach Jo: [00:29:50] The first is the Metabolic Blueprint Personalized Coaching program, which is customized for your life and your body.

 

Coach Kim: [00:29:59] We work together very closely, either in person or remotely, to help you conquer old diet drama and to get lasting results.

 

Coach Jo: [00:30:06] Ideally, we'd love to teach you how to never buy another quick fix diet program or app again.

 

Coach Kim: [00:30:13] Next, there is the Accelerator Academy, which is up to 12 months of self-paced weekly bite-sized lessons and journaling exercises that we've created to help you develop the lifestyle habits that generate a true transformation.

 

Coach Jo: [00:30:28] Find out more on our website. IronLabLacombe.com/MetabolicBlueprint. We'll see you next time.