In this episode of The Bodacious Optimist podcast, Sascha interviews Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick, the visionaries behind Designing Motherhood. This multifaceted project examines how design influences reproduction and parenthood through a book and a series of exhibitions. Michelle and Amber share their journey from their initial meeting in New York to their work's growing impact, including partnerships with organizations like the Pew Foundation and the Maternity Care Coalition. They also discuss the implications of their work on maternal health and the care economy, reflecting on the importance of design as a mode of inquiry and community building. 

00:00 Introduction to Designing Motherhood

01:15 Meet Michelle and Amber

02:42 The Origin of Designing Motherhood

06:41 Challenges and Triumphs in Publishing

08:49 The Exhibition Journey

13:43 Research and Social Media Impact

18:49 Localization and Global Impact

22:50 Partnerships and Community Impact

30:12 Reflections and Advice

37:04 Future of Designing Motherhood

Mentioned in this episode:
Designing Motherhood by Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick
The Museum of Modern Art