This week on Mission Forward, we bring you a conversation from 2017 with two guests who boldly challenge assumptions we hold in our everyday lives. They stand unafraid to say the things many of us think, using their words and ideas as waves cresting in and over us, then receding, laying bare our understanding of ourselves and how we relate to the world around us a little more clearly.

We start with a reading from The Alternative: Most of What You Believe About Poverty Is Wrong by the author, Mauricio Miller. Miller has leveraged his experience in poverty —  and as founder of the Family Independence Initiative — into a book that addresses the issues of poverty with audacity and courage and we love that we captured some of the words from the author’s mouth.

Natalie S. Burke is the founder of CommonHealth ACTION and if you aren’t following her writing on Medium, then you’re not following her writing yet. Since this conversation in 2017, her work has only become more incisive, more aware, more focused on the disruptive journey toward equity, diversity, and inclusion.

Join us for this conversation that presses on our existing charitable organizations, privilege, and oppression, and what we can do together to change our values.

Recorded live at our 2017 April Mission Forward Convening.