Jamie and Kevin are two Asian-Canadian, Asian-American, software engineer best friends who opened up a deeper level of friendship after experiencing Relating Between the Lines. Tune in as they discuss how having a shared language made it possible to better support each other through tough times, empowered them with more confidence to take on hard conversations, and even inspired a personal passion project.

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Timestamps:

1:33 How Kevin found RBTL and the art of "people-ing"

3:42 How Jamie found RBTL and the power of effective communication

6:46 Changes Kevin’s witnessed in Jamie

9:15 The impact of incorporating RBTL in real life

13:10 Changes Jamie's witnessed in Kevin

16:38 Benefits of having shared language and understanding of interpersonal dynamics

18:25 Playing the roles of Coach AND Counselor

19:47 Side effects of RBTL

22:20 Crossing the "vulnerability threshold" in relationships

29:09 The power of having options and moving towards being unconsciously skilled

34:08 Introducing the Vulnerability Junkies Podcast

42:38 Steph receives Jamie and Kevin's affirmation