When New York City went into lockdown, the iconic Nuyorican Poets Cafe creatively took their powerful spoken word events from in-person to online.

In this episode, Daniel Gallant, the Nuyorican's director, shares unique insights on the challenges and opportunities the crisis has created. Hear his thoughtful observations about the pros and cons of performing spoken word in virtual spaces, including the new layers of fluidity and interplay this new landscape offers, and the unprecedented breaking down of barriers to give more artists a place to share their work.

Daniel also discusses the importance of psychological and emotional relief during isolating times, and gives brilliant advice on what makes for an effective “ask” at a time when there is great tension between generosity and scarcity in an uncertain world.

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On Change of Plans, we feature innovative individuals — from entrepreneurs and winemakers, to artists and chefs — who have found creative ways to adapt in times of crisis.

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Change of Plans is produced by Boutique Japan. Our Sound Editor is Eléonore Simon. Find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.