Megan and Michael welcome "ecotheologian" Mick Pope into the studio to talk about climate change. Recorded before Australia's bushfire crisis worsened, this episode tackles big questions such as "is climate science watertight?" and "what's more important – climate action or evangelism?"

Our hosts discuss the theology behind climate action and whether or not the church should get involved in this "political" issue.

Also in this ep, an exploration of 2040 – an Aussie hybrid feature documentary by award-winning director Damon Gameau (That Sugar Film). The film explores what the future could look like by the year 2040 if we put our minds to it now.

Dr Mick Pope – self-described "ecotheologian" – has a PhD in Meteorology from Monash University, and lectures in meteorology and climate. He is currently studying a master's degree in theology and is Professor of Environmental Mission at Missional University. He is co-author of A climate of hope: Church and mission in a warming world, and author of A climate of justice: Loving your neighbour in a warming world and All things new: God's plan to renew our world.