On the show today is Peep Laja. Peep is a conversion rate optimization expert and the founder of CXL, Speero, and Wynter. 

I wanted to bring him on because he's the go-to expert for conversion rate optimization, having been in the trenches as well as building the top marketing blog on conversion rate optimization with CXL. He's also a founder and entrepreneur, having set the vision and driven marketing for each of his companies and then handing it over the operations to others.

You'll hear about what makes great copywriting and the fundamentals needed in order to create great copywriting in the first place, when to test and use data versus when to use conviction and intuition, and how they leverage no-code tools to test hypotheses and validate business pivots.

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