{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"And Sons","title":"108 | The Video Game Dreamers - Chris Skaggs and John Bergquist","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/00ad5ce1\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3087,"description":"Chris Skaggs and John Bergquist have been collaborators for more than a decade. They've built companies, led folks into the heart, and built culture. With Soma games, they've started a video game company on a foundation of beauty and rest. That was more than intriguing to us, so we sat down to ask, how, exactly, do you build a counter-culture that makes great art?","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/AwmMze9gpvb_RtZ3mvkTAIutAwNaK2m5If0ljM5lxHk/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9hODUx/ZGFlOWNjYjQ4MzQ2/NDYyMDBhOGU2MmRk/NmQ3My5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}