{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"From A People Perspective","title":"Why Curiosity Beats Control In Modern Leadership with Melissa Marcelissen, COPO at Certn","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3382,"description":"In this episode of 'From A People Perspective', Martin Hauck interviews Melissa Marcelissen, Chief Operating People Officer at Certn. They discuss the importance of curiosity in HR, navigating professional traps, and the evolution of HR roles in the context of operations and people management. Melissa shares her journey to leadership, the significance of inclusive leadership, and the challenges of balancing operational responsibilities with people management. They also explore the impact of AI on the future of work and the necessity of letting go of control as a leader to empower teams. The conversation concludes with Melissa's advice on leaning into one's passions and defining one's career path. 01:47 Introduction and Icebreakers 04:50 The Importance of Curiosity in HR 07:47 Navigating Professional Traps 10:34 Finding Passion in Your Work 13:41 Melissa's Journey to HR Leadership 16:53 The Impact of Inclusive Leadership 19:55 Evolving Roles in Operations and People Management 27:26 Navigating Daily Operations and Team Dynamics 28:45 Transitioning from Consulting to Full-Time Roles 31:26 Defining Executive Roles and Expectations 34:30 Innovative Approaches to Executive Hiring 37:07 The Importance of Clear Communication in Leadership 39:54 Bridging the Gap Between Operations and People 43:36 Empowering Teams Through Connection and Collaboration 45:58 Fostering Internal Mobility and Curiosity 48:25 Preparing for the Future: AI and Productivity 52:27 Letting Go: The Shift from Doer to Leader","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ni-BThOV-Ad4v1SMMY-IFxsbc3ywAh9UfqX6gLhEO38/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzM5MDUyLzE2NzY5/ODAwNDctYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}