{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"From A People Perspective","title":"Why Curiosity Beats Control In Modern Leadership with Melissa Marcelissen, COPO at Certn","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3382,"description":"In this episode of 'From A People Perspective', Martin Hauck interviews Melissa Marcelissen, Chief Operating People Officer at Certn. They discuss the importance of curiosity in HR, navigating professional traps, and the evolution of HR roles in the context of operations and people management. Melissa shares her journey to leadership, the significance of inclusive leadership, and the challenges of balancing operational responsibilities with people management. They also explore the impact of AI on the future of work and the necessity of letting go of control as a leader to empower teams. The conversation concludes with Melissa's advice on leaning into one's passions and defining one's career path.\n 01:47 Introduction and Icebreakers\n 04:50 The Importance of Curiosity in HR\n 07:47 Navigating Professional Traps\n 10:34 Finding Passion in Your Work\n 13:41 Melissa's Journey to HR Leadership\n 16:53 The Impact of Inclusive Leadership\n 19:55 Evolving Roles in Operations and People Management\n 27:26 Navigating Daily Operations and Team Dynamics\n 28:45 Transitioning from Consulting to Full-Time Roles\n 31:26 Defining Executive Roles and Expectations\n 34:30 Innovative Approaches to Executive Hiring\n 37:07 The Importance of Clear Communication in Leadership\n 39:54 Bridging the Gap Between Operations and People\n 43:36 Empowering Teams Through Connection and Collaboration\n 45:58 Fostering Internal Mobility and Curiosity\n 48:25 Preparing for the Future: AI and Productivity\n 52:27 Letting Go: The Shift from Doer to Leader","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ni-BThOV-Ad4v1SMMY-IFxsbc3ywAh9UfqX6gLhEO38/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzM5MDUyLzE2NzY5/ODAwNDctYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}