{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Growth In Reverse: Newsletter & Email Growth","title":"The PACT Formula for Starting Over with Steve Kamb","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/030548da\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3215,"description":"Steve Kamb bought the domain for NerdFitness.com in 2007 and grew it into a 45-person, SEO-driven coaching company. But then he burned out. Badly. He demoted himself twice, and eventually stepped away from running the business entirely — all so he could do the one thing he actually loved: write.\nIn this episode, Steve joins us to talk about his new book How to Try Again, the hard lessons from 17+ years of building Nerd Fitness, and why starting over isn't a failure — it's a skill.\nHis PACT framework (Pause, Accept, Change, Try) offers a practical roadmap for any creator who's ever felt stuck, burned out, or tempted to quit.\n\nKEY TAKEAWAYS\nHow Steve built Nerd Fitness from a blog into a 45-person company\nWhy he demoted himself out of his own CEO role\nThe brutal reality of pandemic-era burnout and what it taught him about chasing the wrong things\nWhy \"all or nothing\" thinking almost always fails\nHis four-step PACT framework for starting over after burnout or failure\nThe question he asked that changed everything\nWhy writing two articles a week for 10 years was the real engine behind Nerd Fitness\nThe danger of modeling celebrity success over relatable success\nHow Steve separated his personal brand from Nerd Fitness\nWhat success actually looks like for Steve now\nLINKS MENTIONED\nSteveKamb.com\nHow To Try Again (Steve's Book)\nNerdFitness.com\nKit — email platform used by Steve and the hosts\nFOLLOW ON SOCIAL\nChenell: Twitter | LinkedIn\nDylan: LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram\nOUR NEWSLETTERS\ngrowthinreverse.com\ngrowthcurrency.net\nSubscribe & Leave a Review:\nLove what you’re hearing? Make sure to subscribe, and if you found this episode helpful, leave us a rating & review on your favorite podcast platform.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/NU089nPMmUVIXDYYK0f8JTk7Gdyp67hzxCSr-X8nOOE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9lYThj/YzZjMTc0ODc4YzIw/ZWFkNzgxN2FkYzg5/MjI1ZS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}