{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Side by Side","title":"RE-RELEASE: Camden Blatchly, Center on Rural Innovation data analyst, explains the complex story behind rural and urban classifications and why place isn't so easily defined","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1587,"description":"While we’re working on new episodes for Season 3, revisit one of our favorite conversations, originally released on June 18, 2025. \nEllen talks with Camden Blatchley, a data analyst with the Center on Rural Innovation (CORI). Camden discusses the complexities of defining rural and urban areas in the United States, and describes the differences between the two most commonly used definitions: one developed by the Census Bureau and the other by the Office of Management and Budget. Camden explains how these differing definitions can paint different images of rural America and reinforce narratives about rural and urban areas as a binary, when in reality they are a complex, diverse, interconnected continuum of geographies, people, and economic conditions. Camden also highlights his work on the Rural Aperture Project and the necessity for more accurate storytelling and policymaking that reflect the true state of interdependence of rural and urban areas.\nEpisode Highlights:03:51 The Many Definitions of Rural10:25 Racial and Ethnic Diversity in Rural America15:42 Economic Realities and Misconceptions of Rural America18:09 Rural-Urban Connections\nMore Information:\nCenter on Rural Innovation, https://ruralinnovation.us/\nThe Rural Aperture Project, https://ruralinnovation.us/resources/mapping-and-data-analytics/the-rural-aperture-project/\nDefining Rural America, The Consequenes of How We Count, https://ruralinnovation.us/blog/defining-rural-america/\nWho lives in rural America? How data shapes (and misshapes) conceptions of diversity in rural America, https://ruralinnovation.us/blog/who-lives-in-rural-america-part-i/\nWho lives in rural America? The geography of rural race and ethnicity, https://ruralinnovation.us/blog/who-lives-in-rural-america-part-2/\nThe reclassification of rural counties and what it means for rural America, https://ruralinnovation.us/blog/the-reclassification-of-rural-counties-and-what-it-means-for-rural-america/ \n\nQuestions, comments, want to get in...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tlqGC47eNrIE2gpnsGBGmlOp6kISW7ZNG8gy-TLNnz8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzQ3OTMzLzE3MDMx/MDQxNzMtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}