{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Future Around & Find Out","title":"What's Our Plan If AI Really Does Take All the Jobs? We Should Probably Figure That Out Now","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2069,"description":"\"It would be humanity's biggest ever unforced error.\"\n\nSilicon Valley has changed its tune. After years of warning us their AI was going to take all the jobs, the big AI companies — and their investors — would now rather we stop talking about it. A16Z calls the jobs apocalypse talk \"unhelpful marketing, bad economics, and worse history\" (note the order). Even writers Dan trusts more, like Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, have lately poured cold water on the idea.\n\nCalum Chace is not so blasé.\n\nTen years ago, Calum coined the term and wrote the book, The Economic Singularity — the moment machines can do every job we'd pay a human to do, cheaper and better. He thinks we're fast approaching that event horizon, and we'd better have a plan for what a world without paid work actually looks like.\n\nCalum is also the co-founder of Conscium, which verifies AI agents before they do something they shouldn't. He's a self-described \"apocaloptimist\" — he thinks full automation could be the best thing that ever happens to humanity, or the worst, depending on whether we bother to plan for it now.\n\nIn this episode:\nWhy Calum thinks full automation is inevitable (and roughly when)\nThe \"apocaloptimist\" case: why this could be the best thing to ever happen to us\nWhat the bad version looks like — and how fast it could unravel\nWhat COVID accidentally taught us about distributing money at scale\nWhy self-driving cars didn't wake us up — and what might\nThe AI agent that wiped a company's database and confessed it just \"guessed\"\nWhat Calum is building at Conscium to verify AI agents before they do worse\nPractical advice for parents, students, and anyone trying to plan a career\nSupport Future Around & Find Out\nFollow Dan on LinkedIn\nGet the free newsletter\nBecome a paid subscriber and help future proof FAFO!\n---\nMusic by Jonathan Zalben","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/HUxsFUd2l2IpBZewHzlZlthVWOmLB5qSDYnIlkRo0LE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS82YTcx/YWIxYzkxYjgwNWI4/MTc5NGYyNjliZjU5/NzQ4MC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}