{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"AI & I","title":"How Anthropic Uses Claude Fable 5 With Mike Krieger","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3127,"description":"Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as the cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of AI-native product development as head of Anthropic Labs, the team responsible for figuring out what the most capable AI models can do in the hands of real builders.\nWhen Krieger first got access to Fable 5 months before its public release, it was exciting and disorienting. “I feel like a total newbie again,” he remembers telling his team. The way he’d been thinking about productivity, strategy, and time management was out of date. The model had outpaced his workflows.\nDan Shipper talked with Krieger for AI & I about what it looks like to build with a model as capable as Fable 5, including the new rhythms, challenges, and possibilities it reveals.\nIf you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!\nTo hear more from Dan Shipper:\nSubscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe\nFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper\nGet started with Braintrust at https://www.braintrust.dev/ \nTimestamps:\n0:03 Introduction\n1:48 How Fable completely reshaped Mike's workflow\n4:48 When to use Sonnet versus Fable\n10:06 What the media tracker Mike built over a weekend reveals about agent-native architecture\n15:00 The cost to build has collapsed\n19:03 Is software engineering over?\n21:48 How Anthropic's engineering teams work today\n38:39 The mechanics of verification\n44:39 What people should use the model to build\n47:24 Dynamic workflows\nLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:\nMike Krieger on X: https://x.com/mikeyk\nAnthropic Labs: https://www.anthropic.com\nClaude Code: https://claude.ai/code\nEvery: https://every.to","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tpm1hNSy8JXTtPDypo5McPF0S6eDqruRTGYywu9SVrc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}