{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#135 CMO & CSO GitLab, Ashley Kramer: The Three Ps","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/13ae59aa\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4308,"description":"Guest: Ashley Kramer, CMO & CSO of GitLab\nOne day, when Ashley Kramer was an SVP at Alteryx, one of her direct reports hit her with a dose of reality: “She said, ‘I think you are trying to put me on a path to be you, and to have your job. I don’t want any of that.’” Now the CMO and CSO of GitLab, Kramer — who has been a perfectionist since childhood — used to hold her team to the same high bar. But as she’s learned over time, “Not everybody’s gonna have your same ambition. Not everybody’s gonna work as hard as you. It doesn’t mean they’re not good at their job. It just means different things are important to them.”\nIn this episode, Ashley and Joubin discuss what companies get wrong in CEO interviews, “the three P’s” of company values, loosely held disasters, thinking about the future, “everybody does not want to be like me”, how GitLab does meetings, pre-speech nervousness, context switching, skip-level meetings, credibility with the customer, setting the bar too high, and Naval Ravikant.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nPeople, Passion, and Product (04:36)\nJoining companies right after they IPO (07:16)\nScaling questions (10:28)\nJob-hoppers and ambition (12:06)\nParents and dinner-table conversations (16:35)\nCoping with perfectionism (19:17)\nCoaching and demotivators (21:36)\nConfident public speaking (26:21)\nHow Ashley got out of engineering (32:08)\nBeing CPO and CMO of Sisense at the same time (35:49)\nRepresenting “two constituencies” (38:54)\nWhy Ashley has two titles again (44:59)\nThe radical transparency of GitLab (47:20)\nGrowing pains and becoming interim CTO (51:28)\nWorking with founder-CEOs (56:08)\nTough feedback (58:20)\nPersonal and professional OKRs (01:01:15)\nWork-life balance (01:03:33)\nHow to network (01:06:10)\nWho GitLab is hiring and the meaning of “Grit” (01:08:58)\nLinks:\nConnect with AshleyTwitter\nLinkedIn\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}