{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#177 President & Co-Founder Anthropic, Daniela Amodei: AI Hurricane","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/15fd28c3\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":6373,"description":"Guest: Daniela Amodei, President and co-founder of Anthropic\nWith a reported valuation of as much as $18 billion, Anthropic has the resources to be one of the dominant AI companies in Silicon Valley; however, it was conceived as a public benefit corporation and always tries to strike a balance between hypergrowth and responsibility. Anthropic’s flagship LLM, Claude, must adhere to a “constitution” of values that prioritize the good of humanity. And even though every company wants to “do AI” right now, President Daniela Amodei says some of them should slow down. “I keep coming back to this idea of, ‘How much are you buying the hype?’” she says. “’How grounded are you in the reality of what's actually happening?’ And sometimes in business conversations, we tell a potential customer, ‘We don't think we're right for you.’”\nIn this episode, Daniela and Joubin discuss her brother Dario, staying grounded, hypergrowth startups, Claire Hughes Johnson, mechanistic interpretability, Paul Graham, AI training, what AI companies can learn from social media, Stripe, the pool of venture capital in the Bay Area, leading people, giving feedback to all your coworkers, interview questions, and Sheryl Sandberg.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nHolidays with the Amodei family (01:15)\nThe tech industry bubble (05:35)\nInside the AI hurricane (09:53)\nScaling as a superpower (14:39)\nComplementary abilities (16:39)\nClaude 2 and constitutional AI (20:05)\nMaking AI trustworthy, safe, and powerful (28:58)\nGenerative AI’s high cost (31:03)\nAnthropic and OpenAI’s massive responsibility (37:50)\nThe impact of new technology (42:32)\nPublic benefit companies (46:55)\nExtremely lean go to market (53:36)\nAI as a business-led industry  (01:00:37)\nCustomer obsession (01:06:58)\nWhere do you want to use your innovation? (01:11:31)\nWho shouldn’t use AI? (01:14:33)\n“Everything to everyone” (01:18:15)\nWorking with Daniela (01:22:26)\nInterviews at Anthropic (01:25:38)\nIntense performance reviews (01:29:47)\nMiddle...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}