{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Going The Distance: The Rocky Series Podcast","title":"Rocky IV (Episode 10) - Apollo vs Drago: The Brutal Fight That Changed Everything","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/1609310b\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4086,"description":"In this episode of Going the Distance – The Rocky Series Podcast, Ryan is joined by special guest host Big Gun Doug Greenberg from the Rocky Minute podcast for a deep, scene-by-scene breakdown of the brutal exhibition fight between Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago.From Apollo's showmanship and \"born again\" foreshadowing, the intense size disparity and Drago's devastating power, referee Lou Filippo's inaction, Tony \"Duke\" Burton's desperate pleas, Rocky's anguish, and the heartbreaking conclusion with Drago's cold \"If he dies, he dies,\" we explore the violence, themes, behind-the-scenes stories (including Carl Weathers & Dolph Lundgren tensions), cultural context (Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling), and why this PG-rated beatdown still hits hard.We also touch on Apollo's motivations, pride, family, and legacy that carries into the Creed films. A raw, fun, and emotional discussion between two massive Rocky fans!0:00 - Intro & Welcoming Big Gun Doug Greenberg2:58 - First Rocky Memories & Clubber Lang Trauma8:02 - Announcers, West vs East, & Historical Inspirations11:32 - Apollo & Rocky's Debt to Each Other15:00 - Leroy Neiman, Ring Setup & Crowd Energy20:46 - Drago Entrance & King Kong Analogy28:15 - Pre-Fight Instructions & Trash Talk30:07 - Round 1: The Brutal Beatdown Begins42:40 - Between Rounds – Apollo's \"No Matter What\"50:50 - Apollo Down & \"If He Dies, He Dies\"54:38 - Drago's Lines & Post-Fight Chaos1:00:56 - Final Thoughts on Rocky IV & Outro","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/f446Q3CxCTjHVzJBt6bW8obFoxTibotInVFRWbCgfuY/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81ZTA3/ZGRiMGNiZTZmZTk0/NTRmM2EzMmM0NTIx/YmU3MC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}