{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Unrefined Podcast .com","title":"E203 Hearing Heart","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/18c94fa5\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":5533,"description":"For a long time, the church has assumed that if people just receive the right teaching, real transformation will follow. But this conversation pushes back on that idea in a big way.Michael Sullivant joins Brandon and Jen to explore what happens when brain science, attachment theory, and spiritual formation are brought into the same room. They unpack how the human brain was designed for belonging, why attachment is central to identity, and how emotional and relational maturity have too often been separated from spiritual maturity.The conversation moves into the difference between left-brained information and right-brained formation, how trauma leaves unfinished stories in people, and why joy is not a side issue but a major part of becoming like Christ. Michael also shares practical rhythms that can help rewire the brain toward peace, gratitude, and deeper connection with God and community.This one gets into discipleship, healing, joy, trauma, gratitude, group identity, healthy correction, and why the church may be overdue for a relational reformation.\nhttps://radiusministries.org\nhttps://lifemodelworks.org/\nApp on Apple Store- Hearing Heart - icon for app looks like episode graphic\nBooks Mentioned-\nhttps://amzn.to/47Mb2BS\nhttps://amzn.to/4c2msny\nhttps://amzn.to/3Q1PMlt\nTo get links to the Free books Michael mentioned- email sandy@unrefinedpodcast.com\nTimestamps:\n00:00:51 Why information alone does not create maturity\n00:03:17 Michael Sullivan’s background and conversion story\n00:07:57 From church leadership to Life Model Works and Radius Ministries\n00:10:19 What Radius Ministries does\n00:13:00 What neurotheology means\n00:15:07 Defining attachment and why it matters\n00:17:31 Attachment love and the image of God\n00:19:55 Adoption, belonging, and relational need\n00:22:19 Marriage, attachment, and why people matter most\n00:24:44 Attachment, addiction, and the right hemisphere\n00:26:52 Attachment to God and attachment to community\n00:29:09 Emotional maturity and...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/SEi08kDnmS3ucXi-RfuKquACTpfh-Kjws-EHkJR3Eps/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjhk/MGY5YjJhYTVlZGM1/ZDZhOWQ0MzNiMjIx/NWE4Yi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}