{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The WorkOps Podcast","title":"How to tell if you have a people problem or a process problem","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2005,"description":"SummaryA CEO signs off on a new compensation philosophy. Two months later, when HR starts rolling it out, that same CEO tells the executive team it was never approved—and blames the HR leader for pushing it. Sound impossible? It happened. In this episode of the WorkOps Podcast, host Jeet sits down with Kelsey Browning, VP of People Operations, for a candid and detailed story about what happens when leadership alignment breaks down in the middle of a comp cycle at a Series B-to-C startup. Kelsey was the first professional HR hire at the company and had to navigate a conflict-averse CEO, an emotionally flooded VP, and a compensation philosophy that was suddenly orphaned—all while protecting employees from the chaos happening above them. She walks through how she de-escalated heated executive conversations, rebuilt the philosophy for the next cycle, and what she'd do differently if she could go back. She and Jeet also get into the framework she uses to decide what AI can solve (process problems) versus what still needs a human (people problems), why she builds employee journeys the same way product teams build customer journeys, and her prediction that HR is about to consolidate back into generalists—powered by AI. If you've ever been the HR person caught between a founder who changed their mind and an executive team that needs answers, this one will hit close to home.Timestamps00:22 Kelsey's unusual path into HR: customer service, supply chain, and FP&A01:43 The scenario: first professional HR hire walks into a compensation philosophy mess05:31 Discovering the CEO was no longer aligned with what they'd approved08:25 De-escalating an emotionally flooded executive mid-conversation12:39 Redesigning the compensation philosophy for the next cycle17:39 Protecting employees from executive-level dysfunction24:10 The \"people problem vs. process problem\" framework for AI28:38 Automate all you can so you can spend time on the moments that matterTakeawaysReconfirm executive...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/Eh8J8csrLvAf-gfZx2fx-hND9gquazmC6b15qkZyyGA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9lMWNj/OTM3ZjEzMWFkMzQw/NjcwMzQyYTI4MTY3/MGRhMC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}