{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"First of Kind","title":"Jason Yuan: For the Plot","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/1b71261a\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2744,"description":"How can being a playwright prepare one for designing social intelligence?\nJason Yuan is the CEO and founder of Hivemind. A former Apple designer, he pioneered MercuryOS, an early vision of intent-based computing, then cofounded Dot, a personal AI companion with long-term narrative memory. He now sets off to build a second AI startup inspired by the Madonna song “Future Lovers.”\nIn this conversation with Soleio, Jason explains why Hivemind runs on principles instead of rules, why every relationship is a story with shared authorship, and why his product motto is “for the plot.”\nJason makes the case that the best products, like the best stories, are based on truth. A truth that is fundamentally plural.\n\n00:00 Own Your Story, Do It True\n00:49 Costumes, Stages, then World-Building\n03:03 Hivemind in the Wild\n08:42 From MercuryOS to Dot\n13:20 Did You Make a Startup to Fix Yourself?\n16:47 Every Relationship is a Story\n19:35 The Graveyard Before Hivemind\n22:25 Can Jason See Gotham?\n28:13 Do It for The Plot!\n29:13 Designing the Hivemind launch\n32:48 The Information Market\n34:45 Making Work That Feels True\n41:02 Being Known Is the Most Wonderful Thing\n\nS3:E02 Jason Yuan: For the Plot\nHosted by Soleio https://x.com/soleio @soleio\nCoproduced with Room 3: https://room3nyc.com @room3nyc\n\nJason Yuan: https://x.com/jasonyuan\n\nFirst of Kind is powered by our sponsors:\nFramer – https://framer.com\nNoon – https://noon.design\nGrok Bot – https://x.ai/bot\nRamp – https://ramp.com\nVercel – https://vercel.com\nGranola – https://granola.ai\nProfound – https://tryprofound.com\n\nYouTube: https://youtube.com/@firstofkind\n𝕏: https://x.com/firstofkind\nThreads: https://threads.com/firstofkind\nInstagram: https://instagram.com/firstofkind\nWebsite: https://firstofkind.com\nHashtag: #FirstofKind","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/H5pjHJ9UN44Zu5BxykXbBlYKAWgYmWFYw2heRdTdRnA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yODMz/MjEwM2NiZDRmYzkx/MjM2YmY0NWJjMmZj/MWMzZi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}