{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Freight Show","title":"Bill Driegert (DAT) on the Technology That Actually Sticks in Freight","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3400,"description":"Freight tech hype cycles come and go, but what actually sticks inside brokerages, carrier ops, and shipper TMS screens? The “Steve Jobs of freight,” Bill Driegert, traces the real arc of innovation in trucking – from American Backhaulers and the “Chicago model” to Uber-for-Freight experiments, digital freight matching, AI dispatchers, and the Convoy acquisition by DAT.Bill has sat in almost every important seat in modern freight: early at Coyote, co-founder of Uber Freight, Head of Trucking at Flexport, part of the Convoy story, and now leading carrier products and strategy as EVP of Convoy Platform at DAT. He breaks down why each “epoch” of freight tech took a decade to matter, why pure-play digital brokers hit a ceiling, what the DAT + Convoy combo unlocks, and how AI, AVs, and scheduling will reshape the next 10–20 years.What you’ll learnThe real tech epochs in freight: From post-deregulation brokerage and the American Backhaulers / CH Robinson split, to broker TMS, to “Uber for freight,” to today’s AI and automation wave.Why “digital freight matching” stalled as a standalone model: The hard TAM limits of being “product pure,” and why the biggest brokers will build, while everyone else partners.Chicago vs cradle-to-grave brokerage models: How floor design, org structure, and TMS shape service, density, and which shippers you can actually win.Fragmentation, scale, and the future of brokers: Why tech makes midsize brokers more dangerous, why service still wins with SMB shippers, and why you shouldn’t bet on a winner-take-all market.AI’s real role in brokerage and dispatch: Where AI and “AI dispatchers” add value, where they just create more work, and why channel choice (app, TMS, email, phone) really matters.Autonomous trucks and carrier consolidation: How AVs could change capital requirements, operating models, and what a “carrier” even is – plus how brokers and 4PLs might evolve around them.Why scheduling is the final frontier: How appointment setting,...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/f0lw4441guZC8PqbG1LeEKiz-6dFl98YZjNUQNRMTjU/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80M2Vl/NThjZmRkZTYyNWU2/YzkyNGYyZmNiZjU2/ZWIyOC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}