{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Seismic Shift with Michelle K. Johnston","title":"The Closest Thing to Magic, featuring Andrea Hogan","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2032,"description":"Andrea Hogan shares the deeply personal story behind leaving a high-powered marketing career, returning home to care for her mother, and making the spontaneous decision to walk the Camino de Santiago. What unfolds is a conversation about grief, identity, ambition, and the courage to choose a different path when life demands it. Michelle and Andrea explore what happens when achievement no longer feels like enough, how joy can be rediscovered in simple moments, and why stepping away is sometimes the most powerful move a person can make. It is a moving reflection on reinvention, purpose, and the seismic shift that happens when you finally listen to yourself.This episode is a reminder that stepping back is not the same as falling behind. Sometimes the boldest move is to leave the noise, listen to your own voice, and trust that a different path may lead you closer to yourself.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome and introducing Andrea Hogan00:42 How Michelle and Andrea first met at Qualcomm01:36 Andrea’s journey from tech executive to author03:31 Caring for her mother and returning to Ireland04:25 Finding her mother’s Camino journal05:00 Why she decided to walk the Camino right away07:01 What 33 days of walking began to change08:13 The shift from achievement to identity11:05 What changed personally on the trail12:11 A powerful moment in Portomarin15:47 Rediscovering joy as a factory setting16:56 What action came from that transformation18:54 Writing the book and starting a new chapter20:14 Grief, permission, and stepping back from work22:40 Building a consulting business with purpose23:09 Comparing corporate life to life now24:42 Energy, routines, and owning your calendar27:28 Why her mother walked the Camino30:15 Michelle’s reflection on Andrea’s seismic shift31:26 Where to find The Closest Thing to MagicSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!Track Title: My Heart's On FireFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:Watch the podcast on YouTube:...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/D2tDe0ZtfMCZ3nv5_47QQlEf1P6XT2RPjkWueECFh4E/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjQ5/ODU0NmEzNGRhZjE0/ZWUzMjNmMmJlN2E5/NzE5ZC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}