{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Seismic Shift with Michelle K. Johnston","title":"The Closest Thing to Magic, featuring Andrea Hogan","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2032,"description":"Andrea Hogan shares the deeply personal story behind leaving a high-powered marketing career, returning home to care for her mother, and making the spontaneous decision to walk the Camino de Santiago. What unfolds is a conversation about grief, identity, ambition, and the courage to choose a different path when life demands it. Michelle and Andrea explore what happens when achievement no longer feels like enough, how joy can be rediscovered in simple moments, and why stepping away is sometimes the most powerful move a person can make. It is a moving reflection on reinvention, purpose, and the seismic shift that happens when you finally listen to yourself.\nThis episode is a reminder that stepping back is not the same as falling behind. Sometimes the boldest move is to leave the noise, listen to your own voice, and trust that a different path may lead you closer to yourself.\nCHAPTERS:\n00:00 Welcome and introducing Andrea Hogan\n00:42 How Michelle and Andrea first met at Qualcomm\n01:36 Andrea’s journey from tech executive to author\n03:31 Caring for her mother and returning to Ireland\n04:25 Finding her mother’s Camino journal\n05:00 Why she decided to walk the Camino right away\n07:01 What 33 days of walking began to change\n08:13 The shift from achievement to identity\n11:05 What changed personally on the trail\n12:11 A powerful moment in Portomarin\n15:47 Rediscovering joy as a factory setting\n16:56 What action came from that transformation\n18:54 Writing the book and starting a new chapter\n20:14 Grief, permission, and stepping back from work\n22:40 Building a consulting business with purpose\n23:09 Comparing corporate life to life now\n24:42 Energy, routines, and owning your calendar\n27:28 Why her mother walked the Camino\n30:15 Michelle’s reflection on Andrea’s seismic shift\n31:26 Where to find The Closest Thing to Magic\nSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme music this season!\nTrack Title: My Heart's On Fire\nFollow Michelle for more inspiring content:\nWatch...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/D2tDe0ZtfMCZ3nv5_47QQlEf1P6XT2RPjkWueECFh4E/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjQ5/ODU0NmEzNGRhZjE0/ZWUzMjNmMmJlN2E5/NzE5ZC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}