{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Classroom 5.0","title":"#49 Driven to Disrupt: How Autistic PDA Strengths Shape Inclusive Impact and Unlock Innovation, with Cherie Clonan","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/2492dfa7\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3011,"description":"Cherie Clonan, Founder and CEO of The Digital Picnic, is transforming the landscape of digital media and workplace culture. Guided by her own late diagnosis and idenitification as an Autistic PDA woman, she's pioneering a new standard for workplaces that empower neurodivergent individuals to succeed on their terms.\nIn episode 49 of Classroom 5.0, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Cherie, to hear first hand how she's implementing everyday leadership practices and workplace policies that reflect her deep understanding of what it takes for neurodivergent individuals to thrive.\nWhile traditional narratives frame PDA as an anxiety-driven response to everyday demands, Cherie, like me, challenges this reductionist view. Instead, she describes PDA as a complexity of her neurobiological wiring that fuels her creativity, autonomy, and fierce sense of justice.\nI found myself wiping away tears and roaring with laughter as Cherie shared personal and professional anecdotes that vividly captured the fierce determination, creative problem-solving, and sharp humor that embody the strengths of PDA, and highlight her unstoppable drive as a leader fostering inclusive impact and innovation.\nLearn more about Cherie, watch the full interview on YouTube, and explore the resources discussed by visiting the episode page here: https://www.marianepower.com.au/blog/49\nIf you liked this episode, please share it with a friend, or take a minute to rate and review on your favouritie podcasting platform!\nConversation Highlights:\n00:00 Introduction and Origin Story\n02:27 Understanding Neurodiversity and Late Diagnosis\n05:20 Unmasking and Leadership\n08:07 Creating a Psychologically Safe Workplace\n11:21 The Dance of Authenticity and Boundaries\n13:31 Masking vs. Compensation Strategies\n16:39 Exploring Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)\n27:06 Embracing PDA Leadership\n30:32 Radical Inclusion in the Workplace\n37:48 Creativity and Flow in Neurodivergent Teams\n44:16 Impact Mindset and Legacy\n...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/fkKu_gi33ljNdjpQXZM1QckvXwLR1SCpu1Z636mUMBc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jMDAx/YzVlMjVhNDcyNDNl/Y2NjYTIyNmZmZmZl/NDExZi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}