{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"AI & I","title":"Best of the Pod: Wired's Kevin Kelly on Why AI Is a 50-year Overnight Success","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3222,"description":"Kevin Kelly has spent over 30 years experiencing the edge of new technology: from the earliest days of the internet to the first years of Burning Man. But he’s always treated the frontier as a place to visit, not somewhere to live. It’s partially how he’s been able to stay grounded through tech’s various hype cycles.\nAs founding executive editor of Wired and author of The Inevitable, Kelly spends as much time analyzing the latest in AI as he does reading about significant moments in history. It’s a discipline he traces back to his work with the Long Now Foundation, which he cofounded to encourage long-term thinking, reaching from the last 10,000 years to the next. \nOn this week’s AI & I, Dan Shipper revisits his conversation with Kelly. They get into why historians can be the best futurists, and how our bid to understand what intelligence is has parallels with early scientists' attempts to figure out electricity. \nKelly also describes the joy he found in creating an AI-generated saga featuring Leonardo Da Vinci, Christopher Columbus, and Martin Luther—one that will only ever be read and enjoyed by him.\nIf you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!\nTo hear more from Dan Shipper:\nSubscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe\nFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper\nTimestamps for YouTube:\n0:00 Start \n0:50 Introduction \n1:10 Why Dan and Kelly love Annie Dillard \n12:52 How to predict the future like Kelly\n16:10 What the history of electricity can teach us about AI \n20:13 How Kelly thinks about the nature of intelligence \n25:44 Kelly's advice on discovering your competitive advantage \n29:33 How Kelly assembled a bench of star writers for Wired \n34:43 How Kelly used ChatGPT to co-create a book \n39:12 Using AI as a mirror for your mind \n43:43 What Kelly learned from betting on VR in the 1980s\nLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:\nKevin Kelly on X: https://twitter.com/kevin2kelly\nThe Inevitable by Kevin Kelly:...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tpm1hNSy8JXTtPDypo5McPF0S6eDqruRTGYywu9SVrc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}