{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Impact Innovators at the Fireside","title":"The Carbon Credit Dilemma with Kees van Santen, co-founder of Cawa","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/27bd2d54\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4484,"description":"In this captivating fireside conversation, host Arjé Cahn sits down with Kees van Santen, founder of Cawa, to explore the complex world of voluntary carbon credits and the quest for genuine climate impact. Against the backdrop of a crackling campfire in the Dutch forest, they dive deep into the challenges and opportunities in the carbon credit market.Key Discussion Points:The real mathematics behind carbon sequestrationThe critical difference between carbon removal and avoidance creditsThe current state of the voluntary carbon market and its transparency issuesHow intermediaries can take up to 80-85% of carbon credit value, leaving little for actual climate projectsCawa's mission to bring transparency and efficiency to carbon credit transactionsThe growing importance of ESG reporting and the EU's Green Claims DirectiveThe challenge of greenwashing and how regulatory frameworks are evolvingThe founder's \"oh shit moment\" when confronted with the reality of carbon credit tradingLocation: Recorded in a forest setting in The NetherlandsChapters👤 Follow Kees van Santen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kees-van-santen-606a22b2/ 🌿 Learn more about Cawa: https://www.cawa.tech/ 🔍 EU Green Claims Directive: https://environment.ec.europa.eu/topics/circular-economy/green-claims_en 🌳 Gold Standard for Carbon Credits: https://www.goldstandard.org/ ✅ Verra Carbon Standard: https://verra.org/📱 Follow Arjé Cahn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arjecahn/Referenced in Episode:EU ETS (Emissions Trading System): https://climate.ec.europa.eu/eu-action/eu-emissions-trading-system-eu-ets_enCSRD (Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive): https://finance.ec.europa.eu/capital-markets-union-and-financial-markets/company-reporting-and-auditing/company-reporting/corporate-sustainability-reporting_enNote: This episode was recorded in late 2024. Regulations and market conditions discussed may have evolved since recording. Production credits and thanks yous:Music by Allerd...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/Os-HrKfp1Id02mExvMFo0jcf6QlHWVEjEb2MRAd8vJc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iMzVl/MjRiMDg0NTkxOTJk/OGQzYWMyNGQ2NDY4/YmM1Zi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}