{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Energi Talks","title":"Pacific NW electricity going carbon free without natural gas?","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/27bfc2a3\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1712,"description":"Markham interviews Ben Kujala, director of power planning for the Northwest Power and Conservation Council based in Portland, Oregon. They discussed the extent to which natural gas should be relied upon as a \"bridge fuel” as the Pacific NW considers the right mix of wind, solar, storage, nuclear and hydropower to provide carbon-free energy at an affordable and reliable level.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/0lsEkgQ0BNCjRNRVE_ybKu11_ridE2agXDqeC3qWHq8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzE1MDg3LzE2MDIw/MDUxODYtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}