{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Deep View: Conversations","title":"#13: The climate impact of AI - Shaolei Ren","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3028,"description":"I sat down with Shaolei Ren, an associate professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at the University of California, Riverside, to break down his recent research into the water consumption, electricity consumption and public health impact of the data centers being used to power generative AI. \nEpisode Links: The water consumption of GenAI: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.03271The public health crisis of GenAI: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.06288Water consumption VS water use: https://www.wri.org/insights/whats-difference-between-water-use-and-water-consumptionPepsi Co’s water consumption: https://www.pepsico.com/our-impact/esg-topics-a-z/water#approachGoogle and Microsoft’s water consumption: https://www.thedeepview.co/p/google-emissions-are-spiking-due-to-increased-energy-demands-of-aiElon Musk’s Memphis data center: https://www.thedeepview.co/p/the-public-health-crisis-of-artificial-intelligenceOutline: 0:00 – Intro\n1:27 – The water consumption of AI\n7:30 – The difference between water ‘consumption’ and water ‘use’\n16:15 – The impact of reasoning models \n18:03 – A solution to AI’s water problem\n19:58 – The public health cost of AI \n27:55 – Addressing the problem\n33:52 – The dichotomy of the AI industry\n42:37 – A cost-benefit analysis\n48:49 – Looking ahead\nGet The Deep View — your daily source for in-depth, fact-based reporting on artificial intelligence — in your inbox every morning. Subscribe here!\nConnect with us on X, TikTok and Instagram.  \nArtificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by a number of complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor-in-Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ioaDRblhWlqekquI4zZDrpNROTZbPjUAT3imFBoFlRM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8wMjE1/NWJiMWI1ZTZiOTQx/NGVmZTA3NTcyOGQz/MDljNS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}