{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#163 CEO Bill, René Lacerte: Hourglass Leadership","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/29dda821\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3790,"description":"Guest: René Lacerte, CEO of Bill\nRené Lacerte co-founded the online payroll firm PayCycle in 1999, and led it for six years until he was asked by the board to step down. Today, with 17 years as the CEO of Bill under his belt, he’s able to look back on that time with clearer eyes. “The title on my card is ‘CEO and Founder,’” he says. “At Paycycle, it was ‘Co-Founder and CEO.’” The order matters, because once you’ve become a founder or co-founder, you are one no matter what — and in hindsight, René believes he failed to keep up with how PayCycle was changing. “My job as a CEO, it changes every freaking day,” he says of Bill. “We’ve 10x’d in four years. My job today has far more responsibilities and requirements than it had four years ago. So how do you get ready for that?”\nIn this episode, René and Joubin discuss Silicon Valley OGs, the office environment, taking care of yourself, memorizing acronyms, Christmas presents, 11-finger jazz, intentionality and spontaneity, ordering your job titles, problem-solving at night, understanding insecurities, and measuring success.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nWhy René did not want a corner office (02:22)\nThe weight of being CEO (04:40)\nDinner with the kids (08:50)\nPrioritizing, energy, and fitness (11:05)\nMusic and René’s parents (17:31)\nHis father and pride (23:13)\nEmpathy for small businesses (28:00)\nFamily values (32:46)\n“Legacy, I don’t care about that” (36:15)\nStepping down from PayCycle (41:16) \nStarting Bill (46:58)\nLeading in hyper-growth (50:10)\nThe early years (53:07)\nConventional wisdom (56:08)\nWho Bill is hiring and what “grit” means to René (01:01:02)\nLinks:\nConnect with RenéLinkedIn\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}