{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Interior Integration for Catholics","title":"183 Can Catholics Become Gods? Straight Talk from Mother Natalia","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":5846,"description":"Catholics becoming Gods.  In this episode, Mother Natalia of the Byzantine Catholic of Christ the Bridegroom Monastery and host of the “What God is Not” podcast discuss theosis (or deification) from an Eastern Catholic perspective, bringing in parts and systems thinking.  Join us for a fascinating, rollicking conversation about this most important topic.Mother Natalia’s podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/@whatgodisnotpodcastPraying with Parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZ6e6zAMb4Mother Natalia’s Riding Your Hot Mess Express to Heaven talk:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BtvYRfBChcCheck out Dr. Peter and Chris Stefanick on parts work:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSWuvRg5csU&t=1468sThe Resilient Catholics Community is open to new members in June!  Check it out:  https://soulsandhearts.com/rccCatholic Parts Work in Human Formation will be on the evening of June 10, 2026 at 8:00 PM to 9:30 PM Eastern – register here https://members.soulsandhearts.com/Catholic-parts-workA retreat for Catholic formators, August 10-13, 2026 on “Authentic Being and Authentic Relating.” https://members.soulsandhearts.com/formators-retreat-registration-for-2026Key moments in this episode9:40 Theosis or deification as understood as “becoming God” in the Eastern Catholic Church, and how theosis is becoming more and more one with God.  15:00 What is the impact or effect of theosis on our parts?  How parts can be transfigured19:20 Human formation deficits and inner fragmentation can keep us from theosis, from becoming one with God.  The concept of “involuntary sin” in the Eastern Catholic Church.  28:11 Starting with what health looks like, how the fall affects us, and the effects manifested in spiritual illnesses – allowing all of our parts to heal and be deified.  31:29 Evagrius insists that our desires are inherently good, but can become twisted33:00 Are different parts of a person experiencing different degrees of union with God at the same time?38:01 Jesus seeks out the less...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/Mqfai879UFuksxwnuAobH2_oJ5mUER2M4HGfKW4PsMs/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8xMTk1/M2JmNjg5NDFhODdk/MzZjMjY4ZDI2ZjMx/MmY0MS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}