{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"A LOT with Audra","title":"72. The Importance of Detours with Career and Development Coach, Jenna Bottolfsen","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1983,"description":"What if the path that didn't work out was actually the one preparing you for exactly where you're supposed to be? Career and leadership coach Jenna Bottolfsen joins me for a conversation about the unexpected pivots, restarts, and pauses that shape us — and why the thing you thought was a setback might actually be the most important step in your story. Jenna went from 25 years in corporate HR to a failed first attempt at entrepreneurship right as COVID hit, back to corporate, and then into the unexpected opportunity of purchasing an established business. She now runs Wallace Associates, helping people navigate career transitions, clarify their value, and take confident next steps. This conversation is full of practical tools and permission-giving perspective for anyone sitting with uncertainty about what comes next.HighlightsWhy \"detours are signs too\" — and how Cleo Wade's poem frames the entire conversationThe difference between a failure and a learning opportunity, and why Jenna refuses to use the word failureHow letting go of a corporate title is often the hardest — and most necessary — first stepThe role values and purpose play when someone feels stuck or out of alignment in their careerWhy Jenna starts every client conversation with, \"What got you into this field in the first place?\"The power of \"five seconds of insane courage\" — and how you don't have to be brave for long, just long enoughTwo practical tools: the \"You Are Here\" exercise and the Worst Case Scenario spiralWhy \"expectations are the killer of joy\" — and how loosening them opens the door to forward movementThe mindset shift from \"this has to be forever\" to \"what's my next right step?\"How a friend's grief over a missed promotion led to the realization that the job she didn't get was actually protecting what mattered most to herChapters0:00 — Introduction & About Jenna2:02 — Detours Are Signs (Cleo Wade poem)2:44 — Milestone Catch-Up3:44 — Jenna's COVID Leap & Return to Corporate4:52 — Buying...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ST1ihY6oM6j-9JRbJBusW58P2vlzKyibzbr46bLarLI/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9kMTAw/OWFmMDZmNzE3YzYy/OTM3ZmM5Y2NmYzRm/MTY5My5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}