{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Evolved Radio","title":"Building Personal Brand To Win at Marketing - ERP139","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3059,"description":"Evolve or Evaporate: Erik Boles on MSP Branding, Anti‑Commoditization, and Human‑Led Marketing\n\nOn the Evolved Radio podcast, Todd Kane interviews Erik Boles about why many MSPs look identical online and how that commoditizes them into “line items.” \nErik shares his background from early internet businesses to VAR/MSP-era engineering, MX Logic, and early Pax8, explaining that customers care about outcomes and experience more than products or stacks. He argues brand is a result created by people, presence, and “lore,” and that templated marketing gets ignored due to pattern recognition and how the brain filters ads. He recommends MSPs differentiate through human-led communication, storytelling, and documenting real problems in plain business language, often via simple, authentic video rather than polished production. \nThey discuss parasocial relationships, decision-making biases, AI-driven search/answers, and why personal brand should dominate corporate brand (about 95/5) to build trust and demand over time. \nLinks mentioned: opsleader.co; vosa.co/erik; @erikbolz.\n\nThis episode is brought to you by Opsleader Pro. A place for MSP owners and managers to get the systems and tools they need to build a stable and growing MSP. Part group coaching, part peer group, everything you need to run a successful MSP.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/O2_WYcrs3PTn4-vV0ONVRjJR63YTY0Gw23IDrBiDOe8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85N2Q3/OTkwMDUxMDZjZGU4/NWJkMTFiMWExZDk3/MTAzZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}