{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"AI & I","title":"Cognition’s CEO on What Comes After Code","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/34819667\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3202,"description":"The future has a way of showing up early to some places. In software engineering, one of those places is Cognition—the startup that made headlines in early 2024 with Devin, the world’s first autonomous coding agent, and more recently with its acquisition of the AI code editor Windsurf.\nScott Wu, Cognition’s cofounder and CEO, has a front-row seat to what comes next. In this episode of AI & I, we talk with Wu about why the fundamentals of computer science still matter in an AI-first world, the direction he sees for the short- and long-term future of programming, and why he believes we may already be living with AGI.\nTimestamps: \n00:00:00 – Start\n00:02:02 – Introduction\n00:02:32 – Why Scott thinks AGI is here\n00:09:27 – Scott’s personal journey as a founder\n00:16:55 – Why the fundamentals of computer science still matter\n00:22:30 – How the future of programming will evolve\n00:26:50 – A new workflow for the AI-first software engineer\n00:29:33 – How Devin stacks up against Claude Code\n00:40:05 – Reinforcement learning to build better coding agents\n00:50:05 – What excites Scott about AI beyond Cognition\n\nIf you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! \nWant even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.\nTo hear more from Dan Shipper:\nSubscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper \n\nLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:\n\nScott Wu: Scott Wu (@ScottWu46) Learn more about Cognition: https://cognition.ai/ Try the world’s first autonomous coding agent: https://devin.ai/ ","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/tpm1hNSy8JXTtPDypo5McPF0S6eDqruRTGYywu9SVrc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}