{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Flirting with Friendship","title":"The Future of Art, AI & Underground Culture with Felipe Pantone","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2890,"description":"Seth Troxler is back in Ibiza… in his parents’ living room… interviewing one of the most in-demand artists on the planet - Felipe Pantone - who you’ll quickly come to learn does not show his face on camera.Bill isn’t on set this time (he’s injured… more on that soon), but he is chiming in with his usual chaotic voice-overs and making sure Seth’s ego doesn’t get too comfortable.In this episode, Seth and Felipe go deep on:Growing up between Argentina and Spain and getting obsessed with graffitiImmigrant parents who just wanted their kids to “get a real degree”Art school, learning “the rules,” and then wanting to burn the whole system downHow Felipe went from graffiti writer to painting 25-story murals and showing in major galleriesWhy he hides his face and lets the work speak for itselfWhy the traditional gallery model and art-world gatekeeping are about to collapseNFTs, AI tools like Suno, and why the future of art is ideas over techniqueSelling out vs. surviving -  in both the music industry and the art worldCounterculture in the age of Trump and Taylor Swift, and why bad politics often make incredible artBurning Man disasters, getting “in the shit,” and why some people thrive when everything goes wrongLosing friends, surviving jail in Tokyo, and using rock bottom as a turning pointRaving as a spiritual practice and why parties show us the best version of peopleAlong the way, they talk Virgil Abloh, Dali as a character vs Dali as a painter, living in a former fascist house turned utopian artist commune in Valencia, and what it means to raise kids who might still be alive in 2100. And yes, there’s a Magic 8 Ball and a fart in the cold open.Felipe Pantone is a graffiti artist, muralist, and contemporary artist known for massive kinetic murals, retro-futuristic gradients, and anonymous appearances. Keep up with him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/felipepantone/?hl=enFollow @flirtingwithfriendship on all platforms for clips & chaos.Subscribe, rate, review,...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/BYXHO3IBF2w7IOTK4X0yb0CTCMFclAqCZ-r-3aUGcp8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jZmNi/YWFlMDFjZGI0NGM3/MDZlOGRiZjM3NDgy/NjMxYi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}