{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Flirting with Friendship","title":"The Future of Art, AI & Underground Culture with Felipe Pantone","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2890,"description":"Seth Troxler is back in Ibiza… in his parents’ living room… interviewing one of the most in-demand artists on the planet - Felipe Pantone - who you’ll quickly come to learn does not show his face on camera.\nBill isn’t on set this time (he’s injured… more on that soon), but he is chiming in with his usual chaotic voice-overs and making sure Seth’s ego doesn’t get too comfortable.\nIn this episode, Seth and Felipe go deep on:\nGrowing up between Argentina and Spain and getting obsessed with graffiti\nImmigrant parents who just wanted their kids to “get a real degree”\nArt school, learning “the rules,” and then wanting to burn the whole system down\nHow Felipe went from graffiti writer to painting 25-story murals and showing in major galleries\nWhy he hides his face and lets the work speak for itself\nWhy the traditional gallery model and art-world gatekeeping are about to collapse\nNFTs, AI tools like Suno, and why the future of art is ideas over technique\n\nSelling out vs. surviving -  in both the music industry and the art world\nCounterculture in the age of Trump and Taylor Swift, and why bad politics often make incredible art\nBurning Man disasters, getting “in the shit,” and why some people thrive when everything goes wrong\nLosing friends, surviving jail in Tokyo, and using rock bottom as a turning point\nRaving as a spiritual practice and why parties show us the best version of people\nAlong the way, they talk Virgil Abloh, Dali as a character vs Dali as a painter, living in a former fascist house turned utopian artist commune in Valencia, and what it means to raise kids who might still be alive in 2100. And yes, there’s a Magic 8 Ball and a fart in the cold open.\nFelipe Pantone is a graffiti artist, muralist, and contemporary artist known for massive kinetic murals, retro-futuristic gradients, and anonymous appearances. Keep up with him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/felipepantone/?hl=en\nFollow @flirtingwithfriendship on all platforms for clips & chaos....","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/BYXHO3IBF2w7IOTK4X0yb0CTCMFclAqCZ-r-3aUGcp8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jZmNi/YWFlMDFjZGI0NGM3/MDZlOGRiZjM3NDgy/NjMxYi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}