{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Unrefined Podcast .com","title":"E212 [Rewind] What Are We Really Searching for in the Sky?","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3594,"description":"Every once in a while, we revisit an older conversation and realize that it may be even more relevant today than when we first recorded it. That is exactly how I feel about this episode with Nathan Zieber, a pastor, former private investigator, and former investigator with MUFON Canada. Nathan has been called the “Paranormal Pastor” because of his willingness to enter communities that many Christians either fear, dismiss, or simply do not understand.\nTIMESTAMPS00:00 Rewinding a Conversation That Still Matters\n02:00 How MUFON Investigates UFO Reports\n05:00 From Bible School to Paranormal Investigation\n08:00 Christians in Supernatural and Justice Communities\n10:00 Why the Church Avoids Paranormal Conversations\n11:00 Are Aliens Extraterrestrial or Interdimensional?\n14:00 Developing a Heart for People on the Fringe\n16:00 When UFO Culture Becomes a Religion\n17:00 UFO Disclosure, UAPs, and Possible Smokescreens\n21:00 Using UFO Conversations to Open Gospel Doors\n24:00 Salvations Within the Paranormal Community\n26:00 Why Spiritually Curious People Need Compassion\n29:00 Discipleship, Patience, and Messy Transformation\n31:00 UFOs, Eschatology, and the Last Days\n33:00 CE5, Summoning UFOs, and False Saviors\n36:00 Transhumanism, DNA, and the Mark of the Beast\n39:00 Investigating a Mysterious Cattle Mutilation\n43:00 Nathan’s Terrifying Shadow Encounter\n45:00 The Name of Jesus and Alien Encounters\n47:00 How Christians Can Minister on the Fringe\n50:00 Jesus Was a Friend of Sinners\n52:00 What It Means to Be Naturally Supernatural\n53:00 Becoming a Church Made of Small Communities","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/SEi08kDnmS3ucXi-RfuKquACTpfh-Kjws-EHkJR3Eps/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjhk/MGY5YjJhYTVlZGM1/ZDZhOWQ0MzNiMjIx/NWE4Yi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}