{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#148 Former Snowflake CEO, Bob Muglia: The Datapreneurs","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/427b9a45\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4862,"description":"Guest: Bob Muglia, “The Datapreneurs” Co-Author and Former Snowflake CEO\nLongtime Microsoft executive and former Snowflake CEO Bob Muglia was done with his book about using data to drive the digital economy — and then ChatGPT came out. “The timeline for artificial intelligence moved in by 50 years in my head,” he recalls. Bob then told his co-author Steve Hamm that they needed to update “The Datapreneurs” to focus more on AI. “For the first time, we have intelligence in a computer,” he says. “English has become the primary programming interface of 2023!”\nIn this episode, Bob and Joubin discuss weekly meetings, Amazon’s values, the tech industry’s Yoda, antitrust lawsuits, the media and Bill Gates, tangling with Andy Jassy, gold rush times, FoundationDB, executive coaches, firing people faster, leaders vs. managers, deepfakes, and the zeroth law of robotics.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nBob’s post-Snowflake career (00:57) \nHow he advises startup CEOs (04:12) \nGetting fired by Steve Ballmer, twice (09:36) \nWhy didn’t he quit? (14:09)\nSatya Nadella (16:09)\nImmigrant families and early jobs (17:21)\nUnited States v. Microsoft Corp. (21:14)\n“It may be shit, but it’s compliant shit” (25:26) \nAntitrust is not about the law (29:18) \nRose-colored memories (33:01)\nCompeting with Microsoft and Amazon (34:41)\nTwo years at Juniper (37:45)\nTransitioning into Snowflake (39:38)\nEarning credibility (42:32)\nChris Degnan, Snowflake’s first sales rep (45:07)\nNear-death experiences (50:05)\nFinding traction & taking off (55:33)\nSurprising challenges (01:00:55)\nFired, again (01:02:16)\nTough feedback (01:07:01)\n“The Datapreneurs” and the AI acceleration (01:09:19)\nOptimism about the future (01:13:36)\nThe Terminator and Isaac Asimov (01:17:48)\nLinks:\nConnect with BobTwitter\nLinkedIn\nBuy “The Datapreneurs”\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}