{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Indexed Podcast","title":"The Problem with DeFi Integrations","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/440682a4\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3494,"description":"Today we’re joined by Andrew Hong, Co-Founder of Herd, Advisor at Archetype, and former Headmaster at Dune.In this episode, we discuss:Leaving Dune to start HerdComposability in the age of AI agentsWhy crypto due diligence doesn’t scaleMorpho vault complexity & operational riskAI agents for contract researchTwo-sided marketplace: protocols & institutionsHooks, adapters, and modular vault designWallet policies & multisig risk managementInstitutional DeFi integrations (Coinbase, BlackRock)Agent-to-agent payments: hype vs realityWhy crypto needs “boring” infraAI replacing crypto analysts?And much more—enjoy!—Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(01:08) Leaving Dune, starting Herd(03:16) Agent research inbox vision(05:14) Institutional crypto adoption challenges(08:16) From aggregation to operations(10:21) Protocols vs institutions marketplace(14:11) Mapping contracts & transactions(21:48) One-shot integrations with AI(24:32) Vault adapters & hidden permissions(30:49) Security vs operational risk(34:30) Uniswap hooks & modular design(41:07) Agent payments skepticism(53:12) AI replacing analysts?(57:50) Outro—Content links:https://bit.ly/4sgi1uThttps://bit.ly/4b8wt28https://bit.ly/4rqEWlQ—NEW: Join the Indexed Pod group chat:https://t.me/+Jmox7c6mB8AzOWU0And our new website is live: https://indexedpod.comFollow the guest:https://x.com/andrewhong5297https://x.com/herd_ecoFollow the co-hosts:https://x.com/hildobbyhttps://x.com/0xBoxerhttps://x.com/sui414Follow the Indexed Podcast:https://x.com/indexed_pod—The Indexed Podcast discusses hot topics, trendy metrics and chart crimes in the crypto industry, with a new episode every 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month, brought to you by wizards @hildobby @0xBoxer @sui414.Subscribe/follow the show and leave a comment to help us grow the show!—DISCLAIMER: All information presented here should not be relied upon as legal, financial, investment, tax or even life advice. The views expressed in the podcast are not representative of hosts'...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/IM1tBn8uHFRf1EX50ZrfGhDlw_1FFNNQLXKzAVO7J9A/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yZWI5/OGU3Y2UyZTBmYmUz/ZDM0MTA1MmNmZWEy/MDFlZi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}