{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Road to Your Name Podcast","title":"Road To Your Name - Season 7, Episode 4: A conversation about land with Katsi'tsakwas Ellen Gabriel and Sean Carleton, authors of When The Pine Needles Fall ","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2498,"description":"Reclaiming the Narrative — Katsi’tsakwas Ellen Gabriel & Sean Carleton on When the Pine Needles Fall\n\nRoad to Your Name | Season 7:  Episode 4\nThis episode was recorded in December 2024.\nEpisode Description\n\nIn this episode, Lisa sits down with two co-authors of a landmark new book: Katsi’tsakwas Ellen Gabriel, Kanien’kehá:ka (Mohawk), Turtle Clan, from Kanehsatà:ke — land defender, filmmaker, artist, and human rights activist — and Sean Carleton, settler historian and professor of History and Indigenous Studies at the University of Manitoba.\n\nTheir book, When the Pine Needles Fall: Indigenous Acts of Resistance (Between the Lines, 2024), is the first account of the 1990 Kanehsatà:ke Resistance told from Ellen’s own perspective. Written as a conversation, it traces her life before and after the 78-day standoff — when Mohawk land defenders stopped the municipality of Oka from bulldozing a cemetery to expand a golf course — and her decades of advocacy since.\n\nWhat emerges is a conversation about what the media got wrong in 1990, the central and largely erased role of women in the resistance, what it means to hold land as identity rather than resource, and why Ellen believes the international stage — not Canadian courts or legislatures — is where Indigenous sovereignty must be defended. This is a conversation about truth-telling, the long work of decolonization, and what it means to live a life committed to the land and to future generations.\n\nWhat We Talk About\n\nHow the book came to be — Sean meeting Ellen during his PhD work and proposing a conversation-based format to uplift her voice and reclaim her own narrativeWhat the media got wrong in 1990: the resistance was not a “warrior society” story — it was women, children, and elders defending their home, and women went to the front three times when police arrivedHow the focus on men in camouflage made it easier for governments and media to label land defenders as terrorists and obscure the real issue: 270 years of...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/EMAPSU_o9vetcBfJJ4OU41woZtyCGFgI7d9nIXpjEOY/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iMGM3/MjAxOGE0Njg1ZWVj/MWUxZTFkMzllNmI3/ZWQzZi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}