{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Heard Business School","title":"Has Therapy Become Too Capitalistic? with Paul Fugelsang ","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2716,"description":"Running a therapy practice while staying true to your values isn’t always easy, especially in a system that often prioritizes profit over people.Paul Fugelsang, founder and executive director of Open Path Psychotherapy Collective, joins  Michael Fulwiler to talk about building a mission-driven organization that connects clients to affordable therapy without compromising clinical integrity. Paul shares his path from overwhelmed private practice therapist to nonprofit leader, and how Open Path now supports over 34,000 therapists across the country.He reflects on the ethics of sliding scale work, the complexities of talking about money in the therapy room, and why resisting unchecked growth is one way to preserve the soul of this work.Listen to this episode for real talk on money, values, and building a sustainable practice that serves the people who need it most.In the conversation, they discuss:Why affordability doesn’t have to mean burnout or underpaymentHow Open Path created a scalable model that supports therapists and clientsWhat therapists should consider when setting their feesConnect with the guest:Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-fugelsang-a970123a  Open Path on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/openpathpsychotherapy/ Visit the Open Path website: https://openpathcollective.org/ Connect with Michael and Heard:Michael’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfulwiler/ Newsletter: https://www.joinheard.com/newsletter Book a free consult: joinheard.com/consult Jump into the conversation:(00:00) Welcome to Heard Business School(01:26) Meet Paul Fugelsang(02:14) Discovering Contemplative Psychotherapy at Naropa(03:06) Working in Juvenile Justice After Grad School(04:33) Launching a Private Practice in Florida(06:17) The Idea for Open Path Is Born(08:41) How Open Path’s Model Works(10:34) Matching Therapists And Clients Post-Pandemic(11:45) Paul’s Critique of VC-Backed Mental Health Platforms(14:33) Balancing Affordability And Therapist...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/VeEivAX_HTbGxZuTLznr4LPeYdvYf1o7A9czvWKmcxk/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85MmMz/YmQzZWExNzg2Njlj/Mjk5YmIyY2ZlOGJh/MjZiOS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}