{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#156 CRO Snowflake, Chris Degnan: Part 2","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/47148475\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3222,"description":"Guest: Chris Degnan, CRO of Snowflake\nChris Degnan was a teenager when his world got turned upside-down: His stockbroker father was revealed to be a serial liar & fraudster and was sent to prison; the wealth he thought his family had evaporated; and their house was foreclosed on by the IRS. The traumatic experience gave him both an “insane drive” and a slew of anxieties, which shaped the person he became as an adult ... and led him, eventually, to the C-Suite of Snowflake. “Those things have built character,” Chris says. “I’m super proud of the person I am… That’s what matters to me.” \nIn this episode, Chris and Joubin discuss adjusting to tech fame, holding onto perspective, detecting lies, being the monster, paranoia,  talking about anxiety, fear of flying, living your values, Mike Scarpelli, trimming down meeting sizes, sales calls, being abrasive, Mike Speiser, succession plans, and Mark McLaughlin.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nDefining yourself by your job (01:04)\nThe origin of Chris’ insecurities (06:25)\nPassion for the sport (11:11)\nDinner-table conversation (15:41)\n“If I stop working, I’m going to die” (17:22)\nChanging history (20:34)\nSnowflake and its competitors (24:29)\nBob Muglia and hiring big-company people (27:10)\nSnowflake CEO Frank Slootman (31:53)\nGetting the truth (37:42)\nDenise Persson (41:58)\nTherapy and support systems (48:37)\nBringing your friends (51:52)\nLinks:\nConnect with ChrisLinkedIn\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}